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David Fravor

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first: 2020-09-08
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“Because what Mick West doesn't see is so when they take because I've talked to the one of them actually I work with so I know him I know I talk to him all the time so and it's his best friend actually shot the video one of his best friends”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it swaps ends because it has, you know, it's a gimbal. It's not free floating. But there's a theory on one of them. Oh, it's here and it flipped over. It doesn't do that when it's looking out in front. It stays like this. So yet another debunker who doesn't know this. So when Mick has had several theories on other of some of the other videos, like one of them, The GoFats is a bird and Jeremy Corbel actually did a nice job of saying, no, it's not because he's on black hot. So the white object is actually colder than the ocean. That's flying. Well, birds aren't colder than the ocean, they'd be dead.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anyone driving a Formula One car. So I can't tell you how many times I've watched. You got to remember when we looked at this thing when Chad came back with the video, we sat there and watched it. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I watched it off the original tapes going, all right, right. All right, let's look at this, you know, because you can look and see where the airplane's going. You can see if it's looking left or right. And if you actually watch all that stuff, it doesn't do that. Actually, when the vehicle starts to move, the bars, the tracking gate starts to open up and the people at Raytheon could probably add to this because they built the pod. The tracking gate will start to open up, but the thing, when it leaves so fast off the screen that pod can't move fast enough, it has gimbal rates on how fast that thing can move around because there's another theory that, oh, the pod's looking forward when the pod passes underneath the airplane. So if I'm looking at you and you pass underneath me, does this, the ball will actually flip around to kind of finish off.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's like me going. I'm a big Formula One fan, you know, that's like me going, Oh my God, Lewis, what were you doing? You could have done this with the car, and you'd have won the race. And Lewis Hamilton right now is, you know, defending world champion two-time. He's four-time, four or five-time world champion. But that would be pretty stupid to me to try and tell Lewis Hamilton how to drive a car. As a matter of fact,”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am 99.9%. So 0.1% my eyes deceive me. But remember, if it deceived me, it had to deceive the other four people. So the percentage is even lower. Yeah.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he did, and I would do something, and he would go, I'd get to a situation where I had never been, and then I would go, well, I'm going to do this. And then he would destroy me and he would come back and go, here's why you don't do that. And then I would take that knowledge and I would put it in my little basket of tricks. And over time, because no one walks out into that world. I don't care how gifted of an aviator and go, I am the man or the woman. I am it. No, it's a learning process.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So Tom was a training officer. Topkun. So, Tom, when I learned, because I had come out of A6 and we really don't fight because it was a bomber. So I get an F-18s and I want to learn how to fight because it's a whole other side of the mission. It's the F and F fighter attack, the FA18 is fighter attack. So I had to learn how to fight. So now I got one of the best fighter pilots in the world who's going to teach me how to do it.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I understand that it's because for us, if we don't come back with anything, then there's no learning to be had. And it's the same thing if you want to go back to chess. You know, when you start off, you try and learn because you're remembering what you're doing. If you play against someone, I'm always a big play. Play with someone better than you. That's how you learn. If you're constantly beating people, you're not learning anything. You're just learning that they're not good and you're better. When you challenge yourself against someone that is going to is better than you learn. So I learned how to fight an airplane with, he's actually one of my best friends, we'll call him Tom. I won't give his call sign because he wants to say. So Tom took me out and taught me how to fight because Tom had just left Hopkun. He was the training officer at Top Gun, which so that's the guy. The training officer is the main guy at Top Gun.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And you get done, and then you read as soon as you're done, you knock it off, you look at the other airplane, you get set and you start writing all your notes down. And you're writing it really fast on your cart, and you go out with a stack of cards and you stick the new one on your kneeboard cart so you're ready to go. And here's the next setup.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because in the short couple minutes, we're going to fight, the sun's really not going to move much. It's going to be in a relative. So now that the sun is at, you know, let's just say 195 degrees, right? So I'm starting going east and it's actually down off my right hand side. So now I know as I'm fighting, because in the water, you don't have any reference. Like, oh, I passed land, I passed land. No, you don't. And you can't use clouds because clouds do move. But you got to come back because you go, here's where I started. And then as soon as you end, you go, all right, I ended heading 355. And then you recreate the turns and the amount of turns and use the sun relative. So you can create this entire battle that went on with arrows so that you can come back and debrief the guy that you were teaching on exactly what happened. And you get really, really good at that. So when you come up and go, well, Dave, how do you know you were at six o'clock and you went around and you came up here? I go, because I'm trained to do all that. And I take all the notes. Why I'm flying, you can do it. But usually you memorize it all.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have to You'd be amazed at how good. So here's another example. So if we go out over the water, so there's no land in sight, and we're going to fight. So when we fight, you know, two airplanes, we're going to dogfight. As an instructor, and I was for all most of my time, you have to come back and you have to recreate it. So we call it drawing arrows. So you have to recreate that stuff. So you get pretty good at going, you know, like I would take off and say, all right, we're starting heading due east. And I know where the sun is at.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I've got, I know what I'm doing. I can look outside. I've got a sense of what I'm doing, but I'm also looking inside to cross-check of what I'm seeing is in reality what I'm doing.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You can make yourself think that I'm descending or climbing, but you're actually only going around in circles at a very slow rate as fast as the human can talk, but as they spin you around in a little sub thing and slow it down and speed it up, your body does this. And you know, and then by visuals of showing you like they can spin it sideways to the outside wall, but they can show like lines that are, they can make the line stand still because they're moving the same velocity. They can move the other way and you'll think you're screaming. You see it in amusement parks all the time. You do all that because it gives you a sense of the A, but you're really not doing you're sitting there. So we get trained on all that stuff. So if you want to look at it and go, well, you're disoriented or this, I'd be like, I'd argue going, no, I'm not because, you know, when I'm flying the airplane, even as I'm looking at the Tic Tac, I've got a heads up display that tells me what my airplane's doing.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your eyes assume that the runway and your brain assumes that the runway is fixed, but you know that the runway is moving. So if I try and do stuff visually, you die every time, not every time, but you die close to every time trying to land on a boat. So we actually use instruments which are counter to your brain. And there's actually all kinds of things that we go through in training. They have this thing. I think they still use it. It's called the MSD multi-spatial disorientation device. or the spin and puke. It looks like a giant carousel and you're in these little modules. And when you get out, you think the thing goes really fast and they can...”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You actually make vision issues a lot because you're, and the sad part is your brain believes what your eyes see. We are actually trained to do the opposite of that, especially when you instrument fly, because your brain and eyes can tell you one thing, but you got to trust your instruments. Let's go back to landing at night. So your eyes.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And having done it for so long, no, it was, and everyone came back with the same thing. They're like, yeah, it was about the size of a hornet.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let me do it right now. Sure. Because that comes up. How did you know it was about 40 feet long? I go. Okay, so 16 years flying against other airplanes know what stuff looks like. You know, I've looked down on things. So if I know here's the known things. I know when we saw the Tic Tac, I was at 20,000 feet-ish right around there. So when I look down, I know what a hornet looks like looking down on them because I've done it for all those years. I mean, I got a good idea. So that's why I said 40 feet because it's about hornet size. And as I go around, you get to the point where you have to be able to judge distance when we fly out of experience. And you can tell if something small or big, you know. So I would argue the fact of, you know, pure experience, there's, you know, professional observers, which is what we're actually trained to do.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it's hard because if you go back to Einstein, back to the original. He was out of the box. He did not think the North Genius had he not thought out of the box and came up with some of his theories, where would we be?”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There might be another number 11 at another university that reads that paper and says, hey, I kind of had this idea and now you can get a thought pool that pushes us in and gets us out of the mindset because we have a tendency to we evolve the stuff that we create It's like I was joking because I know a ton of guys with PhDs and girls. And I said, but how much when a person gets a PhD in engineering, how much new math is really being done? I said, there's a handful of people in the world that are really doing. I'm talking Stephen Hawkins type brilliance that is going, I'm really doing something that's... Totally different”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To go, hey, I'm gonna put this out and I'm gonna get the best physicists that are working at CERN that are at MIT that are at Caltech at the schools I mentioned. And oh, by the way, a few of these guys are propulsion experts. And I'm going to basically, I'm going to fund you guys for 10 years. So you get $10 million a year and I'm going to give your salaries and we're going to do that or whatever the amount works. So let's cut it down to five so we can pay you well to do the research. But oh by the way, the research is it's not classified, but it's controlled. So we're not going to publicly just put this out in journals, but if we make a leap that we think would advance because although those, let's say there's 10 of them, those 10 scientists come up with something and they put out a paper.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I don't think the money, if you look at the big picture with the amount of money, some that's out there floating around these private companies, you know, I think if you said, hey, I've got, let's just say $100 million, which really $100 million relative to Bezos has got, what $100 and some billion dollars in that work. So if he said $100 million, you drop $100 million and I go, and I'm going to put a, you know, like the government will send a broad area announcement out that says, hey, we're looking for this technology or a DARPA program. But what if I just said, hey, who's to stop Bezos and Elon from doing that on their own to say, hey, I want to go pool universities because they have fewer restrictions because it's not tax dollars. They don't have the checks and bounds. They can do whatever they want. So they're money. Oh, sorry about that.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If we can pool the money together and come up with something that would literally change mankind and change travel and allow us to actually do a more effective thing of exploring, because if you develop that technology, you don't even have to send a man person. If you can develop a technology that's so, with our automation and where we're progressing and our computing power to send something out that's not just floating around, can react a lot quicker, something that could actually go down to the surface and come back up. So right now everything we get out of Mars, it goes down there and then it just sends data back. You get analyze it. But if I've got a technology that can go up there really quick, I'm not worried about man. I don't have life support systems and all that. But it can go down. It can go. It can cruise around. It can hover above. It can take samples. And it can actually take Martian soil and then bring it back.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think about it. That's it. We work together on space because we realize it's way too expensive for us to do alone and effective. So we've got this thing that's been out there floating around for God now, what is it? Like 20 years that things been up there floating around. So it's getting old. We're going to have to replace parts and do stuff.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But if I take money like Bezos money, Elon money, and they, let's just say they want to work together, they can split it up 50-50. The two of them, when the technology gets developed, but now I'm not constrained by who has to do the work, I just want to make sure that I try and keep it in the United States because technology is technology. And if it gets developed and gets over to where a country gets a hold of it and then just basically uses it for their own because you save them all the research time, you don't want to do that. But if we can get to the point where we can do, we do it on the International Space Station. We realize that space was too expensive for one country to do alone. So we made the International Space Station and we have conglomerate. It's the one thing that the Russians and the US actually work together on.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But see, when you do that, so you look at, let's just look at American universities. There's some brilliant minds, and we'll just use MIT because you work down there. There's some brilliant minds, but there's a huge chunk of those brilliant minds that are not American citizens. So if you want to get into government stuff and you are not an American citizen, it gets really, really, really hard.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Another one. These companies had huge, huge amounts of money. And then just go over to the Gates Foundation. And they've got gazillions and gazillions of dollars. We've got universities. There's so much money out there. If we really wanted to do it, aside from what the government wants to do, because we do live in a free society, I think there's enough to go, how do we do this? And because when you work outside of what the government would want to do, so let's we're not working on this necessarily for the United States, although I am a huge giant. I would never, yeah, I am an American.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“hide money in the budget to get stuff done. But then when you look at, and I'm just going to throw a few out there, but if you look at what Amazon does with Bezos and you've got Elon, there's some big money out there. I mean, you're talking, you know, Bezos alone could buy companies like big companies.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People need to open their aperture up and stay off of take the next step and go, we are tied to fuels in either solid rocket or liquid or whatever we do, but it's a thrust generated where we rapidly expand gas to create thrust, which is really in layman's terms, you know, we can get into what, but that's what it does. If you have something that you can contain that is a fuel source that would last a significant amount of time, those rocket boosters go and when they're done, they're done. There's enough to get them back down. That's it. There's not a huge, you know, not coming back and go, oh, I still got three quarters of a tank. Let's bolt them on and do it again. His system's not doing that. But, you know, the way contracting, especially in the government, the government has tons of money, but you got to remember that the government has to justify how they spend our tax dollars for the most part. There are times where they can.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Most people that know me are like, yeah, you're pretty much the same person you were in high school. I was a class clown and I still am that way”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If Elon wants to throw me on one of those things, I'd be all over it. I don't know what my wife would say, but sometimes you got to get your kicks while you're alive.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And Neil Armstrong's an Ohio boy, and so am I. Matter of fact, I have a picture of him in a car in Wapa Connect, Ohio at the parade after he walked on the moon because his parents didn't live far from my aunt and uncle in Wapa Connecta and they were out at the parade. I've been obsessed with this since I was a child.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To me, it's cost effective for us to be able to do more stuff. I think it opens the door to do we go back to the moon? Is there a reason to go back to the moon? Personally, I think if they're really going to go in years from now go to Mars, I think that the moon is the stepping stone to go back to start proving some of the technology to go, hey, we can build this, we can get on the moon, and now we can get back off the moon because we did this on a less than a compact computer in the 60s, which is the whole reason that I flew, because I'm obsessed. Matter of fact, I have the giant Lego Apollo at home and the lander. And I have one that my dad built me in 1969 right after that.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know, because I would pull up because if I knew it was going on, I'd pull up the NASA thing. I was in a meeting one day and I've got NASA on and makers out there floating around doing his stuff. And I saw one he's in the space station while they're doing a space walk. So it's kind of cool when you go, oh, yeah, I know that dude. He's up there in space floating around. When you look at what they're capable of doing and then you go, what Elon is bringing to the fact that now it's back in America, it's actually.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, the fact that we were paying huge amounts of money to the Russian government, and oh, by the way, if you didn't know, because I have some friends that are astronauts. They all have to learn Russian And they have to do it's what level five where the test is a phone call. They call you up and they, you know, because they would go, so I went to the pinning, and two friends of mine. The one actually had a mission date, the one got one later. So it's cool when you're watching your friends doing a spacewalk.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And oh, by the way, because he can reuse the boosters because they come back and land and you don't have to, like Morton Thykall, we reused them on the space shuttle, but they had to take them all apart and do a bunch of stuff because they landed in saltwater and then he had to put them all back together where Eli gets them down because I was joking with this guy. I go, what do they do? They like rehaul, you know, overhaul? He goes, no, actually they clean him up and they can use them again. They're reusable systems. Incredible EAP in technology that no one thought of. But here's a private company. So being able to put people on in the capsule and the spacesuits, I mean, it's literally like sci-fi. When you watch when they went up. So I'm a huge fan of what he and his company have been able to do because”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When you look at that and you go, and the way government contracting is working and how we charge and why things cost so much. And then you go, you got Elon, who's got an ego, and he doesn't like to do things certain way. And I've talked to the guy that worked there on, you know, because the government likes to have oversight of contracts where he was like, no, just tell me what you want. I'll build it and I'll give you a bill when it's done. And then if I do it for half the price, I make a ton of money. He's money driven guy Which I like capitalism at its best. So now you look at the two things. So you got the SpaceX, which is the Dragon capsule, right And then you've got Boeing. So Elon did what Boeing has contracted to do in less time for half the money.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I said, you know, I think it was 62 when Eisenhower warned of the industrial defense complex, you know, which has become everything he warned us of, you know, it has become. And it's really driven by there's the big three in defense, which is really Northrop Lockheed, and Boeing. Those are the big, those are your bigtheons kind of right, like a subset of that, but Raytheon's pretty big too. In U.S. defense, those are the big guys, right? That's actually where a lot of military guys go and they retire. They go do stuff like that.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My theory, so it's funny because I know one of the guys that was one of the original employees at SpaceX. He's a friend of mine. And I won't say his name, but he knows Elon. He knows Elon. And he actually worked on the entire Falcon 1 project. He's one of the lead guys on that. So he's got some great, matter of fact, there's a movie. There's a book coming out that comes out in about a year on this, the original, the first years of space, first six years of SpaceX. And he's named in the book, you know, and they're supposed to make a movie on it. So I'm like, hey, who's going to play it? What he's done to me, it changed the game, and here's why”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just space travel technology. Because if you look at where we're going, because everyone talks about Mars. You okay? And you know, we're, hey, are we going to be able to colonize? And I know Elon is big into that. Yeah, what are you thinking about?”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That got sent here from someplace else. I mean, we've got stuff out there flying around. So, I don't know. I mean, I'd like to sit around and talk to some of the giant brains that think this stuff up. I was supposed to be on a podcast with one of them.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think we've developed it. Because the other one, someone had asked me, they said, what if there wasn't, maybe it was just a drone, maybe it was a UAV.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“System that literally I've got an object because how do you how much power would it cost to create a gravity field of your own that could actually be strong enough to counter the giant orb that we live on?”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The stealth fighter, the original stealth fighter, not the B2, but the stealth fighter. So you look at that you can hide things for a while, but I think a technology elapse, I mean, this is not a, hey, we developed this and we're kind of pushing the edge of technology. This is a giant leap in technology, you know, and the other one is, do we have the basis to do that? Because usually when you have a technology like that universities, especially the one you're working at MIT, a lot of the leading edge stuff is coming out of the top tier universities, you know, so you've got MIT, you've got Caltech, you've got Stanford, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Carnegie Mellon, I'm just naming schools, Naval Postgraduate School is another one. There's usually indicators, there's papers of, hey, this is where we're going. I don't think there's a whole bunch of papers on developing a gravity-based propulsion.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say for a leap like that, and a perfect example in modern times is the 117. Because now a lot of the data on the 117 is out like it was developed at this time. It flew for this long before it was actually acknowledged by the United States government.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We all know there's wins. They're not drifting like a bloom. They're just sitting there. And then they would go back up and they tracked up to the when I talked to the controller, he's like, we've seen up to 10 of these things. There's other guys, and it was raining, and all this other. Let's just say they tracked a groups of these things coming down, hanging out, and going up.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would like to think that if we had a technology that would advance mankind, leaps and bounds from what we normally do, then it would start coming out. But to hide something like that for 16 years, you know, and I understand, you know, and I don't speak for the United States government and I never will speak for the United States government, but I understand how some of that stuff works for classification levels and why we classify stuff. Is it detrimental to national defense? But there's a point where you have to look and go, if we had a technology like this that could literally change the way mankind travels, how we get things into space, our ability to do things, you know, you talk about, you know, are we going to go to Mars? Well, if you have something that has the ability to go, because remember these things were coming down when the cruiser tractor from above 80,000 feet, which is space, and they would come down and they would come straight down. They'd hang out at like 20,000 feet and then three or four hours later, they'd go back up. We don't have anything that can come down, hang out in one's, you know, and I'm talking hold out in a spot.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, if you'd asked me in 2004, I just said, I don't know. If you ask me now, so we're coming up on 16 years ago. A technology like that, you know, and let's assume that it didn't have a conventional propulsion system in it because I don't think it did.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I could have just watched it. I mean, my one regret out of the whole thing is we have a camera in our helmet and the joint helmet. There's a little camera, but we never use it because it's nauseating to watch because if you've ever put a GoPro on someone's head where they're looking around like this all the time, it'll nauseate you. So we never turn that on. It's the one thing I didn't do is reach down and hit the switch. And then we didn't go back and because our tapes didn't have anything because we didn't get it on radar. Because I tried to lock it up because I can move the radar with my head, but I couldn't, it wouldn't lock. The radar wouldn't lock. And so.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Literally Probably three, four times a week But, you know, you see wrestlers when they get out, they kind of, you're kind of feeling each other as you walk on. Boxers do the same thing. It was doing that same thing. It's like, what's going on? As it comes around as it comes around. And then it was like, hey, we're going to get here. And when I got too close to it, it decided I'm out of here. And then it did something that we've never seen. The other question is, what if I didn't cut across the circle? What if I just kept going around a circle”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You would see distortions, I think, as it moved. Maybe not. I mean, I'm not the theoretical physicist in some, you know, I'm not an MIT. I would say, no, I mean, it looked from all my experience, and I had quite a bit of it when this happened. No, I think it was a hard object. It was aware that we were there. It reacted exactly like if I was another airplane and I had to come up and do something exactly what I would do. You know, it mirrored me. It wasn't aggressive. You know, there's taco, it flopped behind us. It was never offensive on us. It never did that. It just mirrored us. So as we're coming down, it's just like, you know, you're kind of, you know, you said you do martial arts, you know, or wrestling. You know, you see people out on the, when they get into the ring, especially with collegiate wrestling, because my roommate in college was a collegiate wrestler. So I de facto became a wrestler because he beat me up every night. And we joke. I talked to him.”
2020-09-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #122 – David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source