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  1. “It really is. It's so inherent and so natural in us to. Justify ourselves. It's really, I mean, I think it's almost. I mean, just understanding history, read history, it blows my mind that, and I'm super thankful that. Somehow, and this has been misused so much, but somehow this ideology arose that love your enemies, forgive those that persecute you. And just on down the line, that something like that rose in the world into a position where we all kind of accept those ideals, I think is really remarkable and worth appreciating.”

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  2. “You know, what if we pictured yourself in the position of my grandparents and then all of a sudden you got the upper hand in some kind of a fight? What are you going to do? You could definitely picture. Becoming evil in that situation.”

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  3. “Think that's why, like, for me, having a path of faith is works as a mooring because it can help me shine that light on myself. You know, it's like something else, because if you're just looking at yourself and looking within yourself for your compass in life, it's really easy to get that thing out of whack, but you kind of need. Perspective from which you can step out of yourself and look into yourself and judge yourself accordingly. And am I walking in line with that ideal? And I think without that check, your subject, you know, it's easy to ignore the fact that you might be able to commit those things, but we live in a pretty easy, comfortable society. Like, what if...”

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  4. “It's interesting that it's really easy, right? It's really easy. You can almost sense it in yourself to justify. To justify a little bit of evil, or you see yourself cheer a little bit when the enemy gets knocked back in some way. And the way it's just perfectly naturalist for us to feed that hate and feed that tribalism in-group out group we're on this team. And I think that can happen. I think it just happens slowly. Like, one justification at a time, one step at a time. You hear something and it makes you think then you are in the right to perform some kind of You're justified in break a couple eggs to make an omelette type thing. But all of a sudden that takes you down this whole train to where pretty soon you're justifying what's completely Unjustifiable”

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  5. “I delayed a trip back to Russia and just stayed with my dad for those last six months. And it was so interesting having had lost everything. I've watched him wrestle with it through the years. But then he found his joy and his purpose just in being almost, I mean, a vegetable, I'd have to help him pee, help roll him onto the cot, take him to dialysis. But we would laugh. He would hear him at night crying or like in pain like ah. And then in the morning, he'd have like encouraging words to say. And I was like, wow, that's how you face loss and suffering. And he must have gotten that from him somehow from his parents. And then, you know, I find myself on this show. And I had a thought like, why is this easy to me in a way? Like, you know, why is this thing that's, and I was like, and it just felt like this gift that had kind of handed down and now would be my duty to hand down, you know, like, but it's kind of an interesting.”

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  6. “Become the breadwinner for the family. And he just felt like a failure. And I watched him go through that after all these years. And we're splitting firewood with the splitter, and he was so good to be back out, Jordan. It was so nice. And he crushed his foot in the log splitter. And you're like, no. And so then they just amputated it. We've got both legs amputated. And then his health continued to decline. He lost his movement in his hands. So he was like incapacitated to a degree and in a lot of pain. I would hear him at night in pain all the time.”

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  7. “Yeah, it must be because the only footage I saw of my grandma was like they were all had the kids and stuff and they were cooking up a rabbit that they were raising or whatever. But a joyful woman. You could see it in her. And she must have been so, she must have understood how fortunate she was and been so grateful for it and so thankful for every one of those 11 kids she had. So I recognize it again in my dad because my dad went through a really slow kind of painful decline in his health. And he had diabetes, ended up losing one leg. And so he lost his job. He had to watch his mom or my mom go to school. All he wanted to do was be a provider and be like a family man. I bet the best time in his life was when his kids ran to him and gave him a hug. But then all of a sudden he found himself in a position where he couldn't work and he had to watch his wife go to school, which was really hard for her.”

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  8. “Look, I'm just one generation away from all that suffering. My aunts and uncles and dad and stuff were the kids of these people. And somehow I don't have that. Like, what happened to all that trauma? It's like somehow my grandparents bore it. And then they were able to build a family, but not just a family, but a happy family. Like I knew all my aunts and uncles and I didn't know them. They died before me. It was so much joy. The family reunions were the best thing ever at the Jonas's. And it's just like, how in one generation did you go from that to that? And it must have been a great sacrifice of some sort to not pass. That much like resentment, or like, what did they do to break that chain in one generation? Dude.”

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  9. “Aunts ended up getting out of the, they hid behind boxes and crates overnight and stuff, and the resistance stormed again in the morning, and this they got away and stuff. But anyway, chaos. So when they moved to America, I will say the most patriotic family everywhere. They loved it. Paradise here.”

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  10. “This Nazi occupation and all that. And so the Uncle Joe, the resistance fighter guy told him, like, hey, we're going to storm this noodle factory. Like, come. And so they stormed the noodle factory and all my aunts surrounding there and were like throwing out noodles into wheelbarrows and everybody was running. And then the Nazis came back and took it back over and like shot a bunch of people and everything. Grandpa, because he had already come from where he came from, was paranoid. So he buried all the noodles out in the garden. And then my two aunts got stuck in that factory overnight with all the Nazi guards or whatever. And then the Nazi guards went all from house to house to find everybody that had noodles and, you know, punish them, but they didn't find my grandpa's. Fortunately, they searched his house, but not the garden. And then so they had noodles and somehow must have been in the same factory or something, but olive oil and they just lived off of that for all the whole war years.”

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  11. “Started a family, immigrated to France, and then it just so happened to be right before World War II. And then the Nazis invaded my aunt, she's still alive, but she actually met a resistance fighter, you know, for the French and under a bridge somewhere. And they fell in love and she got married. So she had kind of an inn on the French resistance at one point. And of course, they were all hungry. They'd recently immigrated, but also had.”

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  12. “Came in the front doors, he was running out the back, and he never saw his dad again, but he turned around and saw the house on fire, never knew what happened to his sister. So he was just alone. He ran. Yeah, at some point, he, I can't remember, lost his money belt. He took his jacket off, forgot I was in. Something happened. Anyway, so he was in a refugee camp. He ended up getting taken in by some Jesuit missionaries. So anyway, both of them had lost basically everything. And then at some point, they met in Baghdad.”

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  13. “At one point, her mom had the baby and the baby died. And her mom just collapsed and said, I just can't go any further. And my grandma and her sister picked her up to, we got to keep going and like picked her up and they left the baby along with the other. Everybody else had died. It was just the three of them left. And somehow they bumbled across this British military camp and were rescued. Neither of the sister nor my great grandmother ever really covered as far as recovered from what I understand. But my grandma did. At the same time, in another village in the Ran there, the Turks came in and were burning down my grandpa's village and they caught. And my grandpa's dad was in a wheelchair. He had like a money belt and he stuffed all his money in it and told it, gave it to grandpa and just told him to run and don't turn back.”

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  14. “They're all tied up, all shot. He said a quick prayer before they shot him, but he fell down and he found he wasn't hit. And usually, of course, they'd come up and stab everybody or finish him off, but there was some kind of an alarm and all the soldiers rushed off and he found himself in the bodies and was able to untime himself. They were naked and hungry and all that. ran out of there escaped went into a building and found the loaf of bread wrapped in a shirt and was able to escape. He fled. He never saw his family for so to continue the story. My grandma got taken with her mother and brothers and sisters and all just, they just drove him into the desert until they died, basically, and run him around in circles and this and that and then all the raping and pillaging that accompanies it.”

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  15. “And justify it in all the ways you can. Like there's some people that were rebelling or this and that. But ultimately it was just a big collective guilt and extermination policy against the Armenians and the Assyrians and the grandparents. My grandma was 13 at the time and my grandpa was 17, which is interesting because it happened almost 100 years ago. But our geneticist, my dad was born when my mom, my grandma was pretty old. My grandmother, her dad, was taken out to be shot. You know, the Turks were coming in and rounding up all the men and they took them out to be shot and then they took my grandma and her. She had seven brothers and sisters and her mom and they like drove her out into the desert. Basically her dad got taken out to be shot. So his name was Shauman Yumara or whatever took him out.”

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  16. “I love history. I find so much richness in knowing what other people went through and find so much perspective in my own place in the world. I have the advantage of in my direct family, my grandparents, yeah, they went through the Armenian genocide. They were Assyrians, which was a, you know, like a Christian minority indigenous people in the Middle East. They lived in northwestern Iran During the chaos of World War I and the Ottoman Empire was collapsing and it had all kinds of issues and one of its issues was”

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  17. “And so, interestingly enough, now in life, I can look back and be like, whoa, weird, those two things I thought I gave up is where I've been almost provided for the most in life. Now, I have this career guiding people in the wilderness that I love. Like I genuinely love it. I find purpose in it. I know it's healthy and good for people. And then I have an amazing wife and an amazing family. Like, how did that happen? But I didn't exactly aim at it. I consciously in a way I mean, I hoped it was tangential, but I aimed at something else, which was those lessons I kind of got from the Gulag Archipelago.”

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  18. “Trying to be that candle. Yeah, make that your ideal. And then in doing so, it was interesting. So for me personally, my personal experience of that is I thought when I went to Russia that I kind of gave up, I was like in my 20s, I spent my whole 20s living in teepees and doing all this stuff that I thought I should give you getting a job. I should be pursuing a career. I should get an education of some sort. Like what am I doing for my future? But I felt I knew where my purpose was. I knew where my calling was. I'm just going to do it. It sounds glamorous now when I talk about it, but it sucked a lot of the times. And there was a lot of loneliness, a lot of like giving up what I wanted, a lot of watching people I cared about. You know, you put all this effort in and then you just see the people that you put all this effort in and just die and this and that and then commit. It was that happened all the time. And then the other thing I thought I gave up was like a relationship because you couldn't, you know, I wasn't going to find a partner over there.”

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  19. “Everybody's trying to survive, and they've made that their ultimate goal. I will get through this and then they've all basically turned into animals in pursuit of that goal and like lying and cheating and stealing. And then he was like, somehow the corrupt Orthodox church produced these little babushkas who were candles in the middle of all this darkness because they did not allow their soul to get corrupted. And he's like, what they did do is they died. They all died, but they were lights while they were alive and lost their lives, but they didn't lose their souls. So for myself, that was really powerful to read and realize that the pursuit of happiness wasn't exactly what I wanted to aim at. I wanted to aim at.”

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  20. “Happiness is interesting because it's like it's complex and multifaceted. It includes a lot of things that are out of your control and a lot of things that are in your control. And it makes, it's quite the moving target in life. You know what I mean? So One of the things that really impacted me when I was a young man and I read the Gulag Archipelago was don't pursue happiness because the ingredients to happiness can be taken from you outside of your control, your health. But pursue a spiritual fullness, pursue... Pursue, I think he words it duty and then happiness may come alongside or it may not. So he gives the example that I thought was really interesting in the prison camps.”

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  21. “Yeah. A lot of times you have to force yourself in that. So, like, if we took them as an example, I mean, a lot of times you drag us drunk guy into the woods, literally just drag him into the woods, and then you'd sober up. And then he was like a month blackout drunk, and now he's sobered up. And now, boom, back into life, back into being a knowledgeable, capable person. And because comfort's so available to us all, you almost have to force yourself into that situation. plan it out okay i'm gonna go i'm gonna go do that part thing i'm gonna do that hard thing and then”

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  22. “It's really weird. I've thought about that a lot, and I don't know the answer. It's like there's a huge draw to comfort. There's a huge, and it's all multifaceted and somewhat complex because, you know, you can be out in the woods and have this really cool life. I will say it's a little bit different for men than women because the men are living like the dream as far as like. What I would like so you're hunting and fishing and managing reindeer, and you got these all these adventures. So, what ends up happening is that a lot more guys than young men out there in the woods. And so there's a draw also, I think, to go to the village probably to find. A woman, and then there's a draw of like technology and the new things. And I think it, but then once they're there, honestly, alcohol becomes so overwhelming that everything else kind of just.”

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  23. “Unhappy people like they drink a lot they're always fighting the murder rate is through the roof the suicide rate is through the roof but if you meet those same people out in the woods living that way of life I thought these are happy people and it's kind of an interesting juxtaposition to be the same person but um but then you know i lived in a native village that had the reindeer herding going on around it and everybody kind of benefited because of that i also went to a native village that they didn't hold those ways anymore and so everybody was just in the village life and it just felt like a dark place whereas the other native village it was rough in the village because everybody drank all the time but it had that escape and it had that escape valve and then once you're out there it's just the whole different world and uh it was such an odd juxtaposition”

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  24. “When you're that connected to the natural world, that really is feel like that's what we're designed for. And so there's a psychological benefit you gain from spending that much time in that realm. And for that reason, I think that, you know, people that are connected to those ways are able to tap into a particular. I noticed it a lot with the natives. So if I met the natives in the village, I would think of them as like,”

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  25. “There's something really, really powerful about spending that much time being independent, you know, depending on what we talked about a little earlier, but you're putting yourself in these situations all the time where you're uncomfortable, where it's hard, but then you're rising to the occasion, you're making it happen, there's nobody when you're fur trapping by yourself, there's nobody else to look at to blame for anything that goes wrong. It's just yourself that you're reliant on. There's something about the natural rhythms that you are in when”

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  26. “So there's this big river called the Yenise that feeds through the middle of Russia. And there's a bunch of tributaries off of it. And one of the tributaries is called the Pudcom in Leatunguska. And I was up that river and just a little ways north is another river called the Bakhta. And that's where that village is where they filmed happy people. So in Siberian terms, we're neighbors. Nice. Similar environment, similar place for trapper that I was with knew the guy, you know, in the films”

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  27. “And burn like a factory fire starter. You know, it's really, really nice. So it's good to spot. It's a good thing to keep your eye out”

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  28. “So, on a lot of pine trees, a place where the tree was injured when it was alive, it like pumps sap to it. And this is a good point because I use this a lot. It pumps that tree full of sap. And then years later, the tree dies, dries out, rots away. But that sap infused wood, it's like turpentine in there. You know, it's oily. And so if it gets wet, you can still light it. It repulses water. And so if you can find that in a rainstorm, you can just make a little pile of those shavings, get the crappiest spark or quickest light, and it'll just sit there and pull.”

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  29. “Once you get that going, yeah, then it'll dry as it goes. But you need to be able to split open and get all that nice dry wood on the inside.”

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  30. “That you can light or spark and then Get a lot of good dry kindling. And then don't be afraid to just boom, boom, boom, pile a bunch of wood on and make a big old fire get warm as fast as you can. It's amazing how much that of a recharge it is when you're cold and wet.”

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  31. “I mean, it depends on your environment, but I will say in most of forests that I spend a lot of time in, in all the Northwoods, the best thing you can do is find a dead standing tree. So it can be downpouring rain. And you chop that tree down. And then when you split it open, no matter how much it's been raining, it'll be dry on the inside. So chop that tree down, chop a piece, a foot long piece out, and then split that thing open and then split it again. And then you get to that inner drywood. And then you try to do this maybe under a spruce tree or under your own body so that it's not getting rained on while you're doing it. Make a bunch of little curls that'll catch a flame or light. And then you make a lot more kindling and little pieces of dry wood than you think because what'll happen you'll light it and it'll burn through and it's like dang it. So just be patient. You're going to be fine. You know, like and make a nice pile of curls.”

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  32. “There you go. I mean, it's such a lesson, too. There were so many of those, and it was always, I was always in a little bit over my head, but like I said, you kind of do that enough and you make a lot of mistakes every time you learn. Now it's like an extension of my arm. That's not going to happen because I just know how it works now.”

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  33. “And then just swung it into my knee. I didn't even want to look. I was like, oh no, if I looked and it wasn't a huge wound because it had hit right on the bone of my knee, but it split the bone, cut a tendon there. I was out in the middle of the woods. So I literally knew I was in shock because I'm just going to go back to TP right now. So I ran back to TP, laid down. And honestly, I was stuck there for a few days. That was in so much pain and my other knee was bad. It was rough. I couldn't even, I literally couldn't even walk at all or move. I had to like there was a plastic bag. I had to like poop in it and like roll to the edge of the teepee, like shove it under the moss. It's just totally immobilized.”

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  34. “So I'd gotten a knee surgery. And in about three months later Torn my ACL. I went over to Russia. And I was like, well, I've got a good knee. It's okay. And then that's when I was building that fence that first time. And at one point, I chopped my rubber boot with my axe because it reflected off and I was new to him. And I was really frustrated because I'd done it before. And the native guy was like, oh, you know, I think there's a boot we left. A few years ago, we left a boot like four kilometers that way. So we got the reindeer, took him, rode him over. Sure enough, there's a stump with a boot upside down. Pull it off, put it on. I was like, sweep back in business. Went back a couple days later. Cut your foot. Cut my rubber boot. And I was just like, dang it. And I was mad enough that I just grabbed the axe and swung it at the tree and it just one-handed and like deflected off and bam right into my no. And I was like, oh, I fell down. I was like, oh my gosh, because you get your axe really like razor sharp.”

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  35. “I greatly prefer an axe. A saw though has its value goes up quite a bit when you're in hardwoods. Like when you're in a hardwood oaks and hickory and things like that, they're a lot harder to chop. So a saw is pretty nice in those situations, I'd say in those situations, I'd like to have both in the Northwoods and in like more coniferous forests. I don't think there's enough advantages that a saw incurs with a good axe. Now, you'll see people with little like camp axes and stuff and they just don't think they like axes. It's like, well, you haven't actually tried to try a good one first and get good with it. The one thing about an axe, they're dangerous, so you need to like practice, always control it with two hands. Make sure you're not, you know where it's going to go. It doesn't hit you or when you're chopping, like, say you're creating something that you're not doing it on rocks and stuff so that it's you're doing on top of wood so that when you're hitting the ground, you're not dull in your axe. You know, there's, you know.”

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  36. “Oh, so the act is super important to chop through ice in a winter situation, which you probably hopefully won't need. But what I use in axe all the time for is when I'm. When it's wet and rainy, and you need to start a fire It's hard to get to the middle of dry wood if just a knife or a saw. And so I can go out there, find the dead tall tree, you know, dead standing tree, chop it down, split it apart, split it open, get to the dry wood on the inside, shave it some little curls and have a fire going pretty fast. And so if I have an axe, I feel always confident that I can get a quick fire in whatever weather. I wouldn't feel the same without it in that regard. So that's the main thing. Of course, you can use it. I use it if you're taking an animal apart or if you're, you know, all kinds of.”

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  37. “There's other things, you know, like I slightly rounded this poll here. It's just a little nuance because when you pound a steak in, if you picture it, if it's convex, when you're pounding it, it's going to blow the fibers apart. If it has just a slight concave, it helps hold the fibers together. And so it's a little nuanced, not too flat because you want to still be able to use the back as you would.”

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  38. “And it makes it really good for that planing. The other thing it is, especially in northern woods, all the trees are like this big, you know, that you're never cutting down a big giant tree. And so when you swing with a single-sided axe like this, sharpen from the one side, it really with your right hand swing like this, it really bites into the wood and gives you because with that, if you can picture it, that angle is going to cause deflection. And without that angle on your right handed ceiling, it just bites in there like crazy. And so. That there's other little divine, you know, the handle is made by some Amish guys in Canada. This is all hand forged.”

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  39. “This is a little smaller. I didn't want to make it too small because you need something to actually work out there. You need something kind of serious. But then they sharpen it from one side. So if you're right handed, you sharpen it from the right side. And that means when you're in the woods and living, there's a lot of times where you're making a table or a sleigh or an axe handle or whatever you're doing that you're holding the wood and doing this work.”

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  40. “It doesn't fly off. And so that's something that's kind of cool. Then they have what's what they do that's unique is so you can see this is the Wolverine Axe. So it's got the little wolverine head in honor of the Wolverine I fought on the show. So you have like”

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  41. “So the natives when I got there, I thought, you know, I grew up on a farm, I thought I was pretty good with an axe, but they do tons of work with those things. And I really grew to love their type of axe, their style of acts. And just an axe in general. They'd always say it's the one tool you need to survive in the wilderness. And I agree. So this one has certain design features that the natives... Was unique to the Avenki, to the natives I was with. One is with these Russian heads or the Soviet heads, whatever they had, they're a little wider on top here, meaning you can put the handle through from the top, like a tomahawk. And that means you're not dealing with a wedge. And if it ever loosens and you're swinging, it only gets tighter.”

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  42. “I remember if you got your poor son of a gun to get stuck slicing the bread, you know, like you're here cutting the bread and somebody throws all the spoons and drops the pot of soup there. And it's like, before you can even slice in your slice all the meats, like gone from the bowl, everybody else has grabbed the spoon in midair and poof. And you're just like, oh, hoping this one little noodle is going to give me a lot of nourishment.”

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  43. “Stuck with whatever random food you've got. And so that's where I lost the most weight and felt the most hungry and had a lot of other issues. You know, I was new to that type of work. And so working as hard as I could, but also making mistakes, chopping myself with the axe and getting injured, all kinds of stuff, you know.”

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  44. “Build these 30 kilometer loop fences with just logs interlocking. It's tons of work and all these guys are more efficient bodies. They're better at it. And I'm this like working less efficiently and also a lot bigger dude, but we're all just on the same rations kind of. And I got down. That was like 155 pounds, you know, getting down pretty dang skinny for my six three frame and just working really hard. And then it's in the spring in Siberia. There's no like, there's not much to forage. You know, in the fall, you can have pine nuts and this and that. But in the spring, you're just.”

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  45. “It was the first time to continue the story slightly. I went for trapping with that guy. And then it turned out all his cousins were these native nomadic reindeer herders. And after I earned his trust and he liked me a lot, he took me out to his cousins who were all these, you know, nomads living in teepees. I was like, this is awesome. I didn't even know people still lived like this. And they were really open and welcoming because their cousin just brought it me out there and vouched for me. It was during fencing season and fencing in Siberia for those reindeers like an incredible thing. You take an axe, you go out and you just.”

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  46. “And I can smile about it now. And now that I know that, I can be in a miserable position and realize that that's what the outcome will be once it's over. It's just going to be a story. If you survive, though. If you survive. And that can be...”

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  47. “That's absolutely true. It's so funny how this awareness of that having been through it and then being aware of it means next time you face it, you can be like, you know what? Once this is over, I'm going to look back on it. And it's going to be like that and nothing. And I'll actually laugh about it and think it was a thing I'll remember. You know, I remember that story of that miserable day going down to the ice.”

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  48. “One separate time. I think that a lot, honestly. I tell myself that a lot when I'm about to do something really hard. Just go, one step at a time. Just going to get, don't sit there and think, oh, that's a long ways. Just go and then you'll look back and you covered a bunch of ground.”

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  49. “Right. It's kind of like, you know, just put one foot in front of the other, you know, when you think about what you have to do, it's really intimidating. You just know if I just do it, if I just do it, if I just keep trudging eventually, I'll get there. And pretty soon you realize you'll have covered a couple kilometers. And so when you're really in it in those moments, I guess you're just putting your head down and getting through.”

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  50. “You know, it was a bad day for sure. It was a bad day. And here's what was funny is I got to the cabin at like three in the morning and I should have brushed over a lot of the misery that I felt. And I laid down, I was about to go to sleep. And then your charge is in from there. I was like, whoa, dude, what are you doing? And I was like, how's it going? He said, oh, it sucks. And you lay down and just fell asleep. I fell asleep. And I was like, oh, that's funny. The last few weeks that we've been apart, who knows what he went through? Who knows why he was there at that time at night? I'll just summarize and it sucked. And we went to sleep, and the next morning we parted waves, and who knows what happened. And you didn't really tell them. Never of us said what happened. It's just like, oh, that's interesting.”

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