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  1. “It's kind of muscle memory, you have a little trigger, like draw that elbow tight and then. Happens and then you just watch the arrow and see where it goes now. With the animal, you know, you try to do it ethically, that is like make as good of a shot as you can. Make sure it is either hit in the heart or both lungs. And when that happens, it's a pretty quick death, which is death is a part of life. But honestly, for a wild animal, that's probably the best way to go they could have. Now, when a animal's kind of walking towards you, if it's walking towards you but not directly towards you, that's what you call quartering towards you. You can picture it's actually pretty difficult to hit both lungs because the shoulder blade and all that bone is in the way. So you want to, so you have to make a perfect shot to get them both. And to be honest, when I took my shot, I was a couple inches or a few inches right. And so it went through the first lung and then it sunk the arrow all the way into the moose. But it didn't, it allowed that second lung to stay.”

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  2. “Yeah, yeah. I mean, another thing about hunting is that for every animal you get, you probably don't get nine or ten that this turned the wrong way when you were drawn back or went way behind a tree or you never had a clean shot or whatever it is. And so every time you can see a moment coming, you know, your heart really starts beating and you have to breathe through it. I can almost, you know, you almost feel the nervousness of it. And then, uh, You just try to stay calm, you know, like whatever you do, just try to stay calm, wait for it to come up, drop back. You've practiced shooting a lot. So you have like kind of a technique. I'm going to go back, touch my face, draw my elbow tight, and then the arrow is going to let loose.”

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  3. “Yeah, I was. I mean, until you actually have your hands on it, I was worried the whole time. It's a pretty nerve-wracking period there between when you get it and when you actually recover the animal, get your hands on it. So it took longer than I wanted, but I finally got it”

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  4. “Weeks of you're going to starve, you're going to starve. And it got rid of that demon. To be honest, it's one of the happiest moments of my life. It's really hard to replicate that joy because it was just so real or so directly connected to your needs. It's all so simple. It was a peak experience for sure.”

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  5. “When an animal like that gets hit, it had no idea what hit it. You know, just all of a sudden, it's like, ah, something got it and it ran off and it lays down and it's actually fairly calm and it doesn't really know what's going on. And if you can leave it in that state, it'll kind of just bleed out and as peacefully as possible. If you go chase after it, that's when you lose an animal because as soon as it knows it's being hunted, you know, it gets panicked, adrenaline, and it can just run and run and run. you'll never find it so i didn't want it to see me i knew if i tried to get it with another arrow there's a chance i could have finished it off but there's also a not bad chance that it would see me take off or even attack because moose can be a little dangerous and so uh i just chose to wait it out and at one point it stood up and fell over and i could tell it had died and walked over like you actually touch it and you're just like no way like that whole burden of”

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  6. “No, and then I was like, well, if there's no blood, I'm just going to follow the path that I would go if I was a moose. You know, like the least resistance through the woods. So I followed kind of along the shore there. And sure enough, I saw him up there. I was like, oh, you know, I was so excited lay down. But he hadn't died yet. And so he just sat there and he would stand up and I would just like, no, no, no, no. And he would lay back down. You're like, yes. And then he would stand. And it was like that for a couple hours that took him. And then finally at one point, and a lot of people.”

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  7. “And I saw some bubbly blood, which meant it was hitting the lungs, which meant it's not going to live. You'll get it. And so as long as you don't mess it up. And so I went back to my shelter and waited an hour. I skinned that rabbit that had caught. And then super nervous the slowest hour ever. And then I followed it along, ended up losing the blood trail. I was like, no.”

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  8. “Pounding like crazy, or it's like, no way, no way. I probably could have waited a little longer and had a perfect broadside shot, but I took the shot when he was pretty close, like 24 yards, but he was quartering towards me, which makes it a little harder to make a perfect kill shot, you know. Hence, I hit it and it took off running and I just thought, you know, I was super excited. I couldn't believe I actually, you know, I was like, oh my gosh, got the moose. I think that was a really good shot. You get all excited. But then it plays back in your head. And particularly when you're first learning to hunt, there's always an animal that gets away, you know, and you're like make a bad decision or not a great shot or something. And it's just part of it. And so, of course, you're like, I'm not going to be satisfied until I see this thing. So I followed the blood trail a little while.”

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  9. “Yeah, another thing that could have not worked, but it actually worked, and it came through. And I was like, oh, I heard the cans clink. And I was like, no way. And so I ran over. I didn't know what it was exactly, but something was coming along the fence. And I ran over and jumped in the bush next to the funnel exit on the fence. And sure enough, the big moose came running up. And, you know, your heart gets.”

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  10. “Yeah, so I had missed one, and I just decided I'm not here to starve, I'm here to try to become sustainable. So I was like, I don't care if it's a risk. I'm going to build that fence. I built it. I would just pick berries and call moose every, you know, every day. And it was actually a really pleasant just sitting in a berry patch and call moose. But then I also had this whole trap and snare lines set out everywhere. So I had all these, I was getting rabbits. And I was actually Taking a rabbit out of a snare when I heard a clank because I had set up kind of an alarm system with string and cans.”

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  11. “You know, this other person is with a moose. So again, kind of the pressure came back to, oh no, I got to produce again. You know, it wasn't the end of the world. And I think they may have exaggerated a little bit how little fat I had left. You know, I still had a moose has a lot of fat. But it did make me feel like I was at a disadvantage again. And so yeah, that was pretty intense because those Wolverines, they're bold little animals. He was basically saying no, this is my moose. And I had to counter his claims.”

    2024-07-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #437 – Jordan Jonas: Survival, Hunting, Siberia, God, and Winning Alone Season 6 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “I've got to outproduce somebody else with a moose. So I had all that in my head. Already was, of course, pretty thin. And so I was just like, man, if somebody else gets a moose, I'm still going to be behind. And so everything felt like precious to me. And I had found a plastic jug and I put a whole bunch of the moose's fat in this plastic jug and set it up on a little shelf. I thought, oh, you know what? If a bear comes, I'll probably hear it and I'll come out and be able to shoot it. So I went to sleep and I woke up the next morning. I went out and I was like, where's that jug? And then I was like, wait a second, what are all these prints? And then I started looking around. And it took a second to dawn on me because I haven't interacted with Wolverines very often in life. And I was like, oh, those are Wolverine tracks. And he was just so much sneakier than Bear would have been or something. So it kind of surprised me. And he took off with that jug of fat. And so then I went from feeling pretty good about myself to like now I'm losing against whoever.”

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  13. “Well, it was when I got the moose, I was so happy, the most joy I could almost experience maxed maxed out. But I didn't think I didn't think I won at that point. I never thought like, oh, that's my ticket to victory. I thought, holy crap, it's going to be me against somebody else that gets a moose now. And we're going to be here six, eight months. Who knows how long? And so I can't, I can't be here six, eight months and still lose. So I've got to like.”

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  14. “Yeah, that was really interesting. I mean, the most interesting thing about that show was how high the stakes fell. Because it didn't feel, you know, you didn't tell yourself you're on a show. At least I didn't. You just felt like it was you're going to starve to death if you don't make this happen. And so the stakes felt so high. And it was an interesting thing to tap into because, I mean, so many of our ancestors probably all just dealt with that on a regular basis, but it's something that all the modern amenities and such and food security that we don't deal with. And it was interesting to tap into what a kind of a peak mental experience that is when you really, really need something to survive. And then it happens. You can't imagine, I mean, that's what all our dopamine and receptors are tuned for that experience in particular. So it was, yeah, it was pretty awesome.”

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  15. “Nobody's going to make this happen except myself. Can't complain. It wouldn't have done me any good to go back and mope about it. And so then I was like, I had a thought. I was like, oh, I remember the native guys telling me they used to like build these giant fences and funnel game into certain areas and stuff. And I was like, man, that's a lot of calories. But I have to make that happen again now. So I kind of went out there and tried that. And that was kind of a attempt at something to it could have failed or not worked, but sure enough it worked and the opportunity came again and Moose came wandering along and was able to get it. But being able to take failure as sooner you can, the better. Accept it and then learn from it is kind of a muscle you have to exercise a little bit.”

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  16. “The moose, the first moose I saw. I had a great shot at it, but I had a hard time judging distance because it was in a mud flat, which means it's hard to tell yardage, you know, because you usually typically go and buy trees or markers be like, oh, I'm probably 30 yards away. This was a giant moose and he was 40 something yards away. And I asked him mated that he was 30 something yards away. So I was way off and shot and dropped between his legs. And then I realized I had not grabbed my quiver. So I only had one shot and I just watched him turn around and walk off. But I was struck initially with like. I actually noticed how unmad I was. I was like, oh, this is actually Make it happen again. It was like, okay”

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  17. “Of acceptance. I mean, the more you put yourself in life in positions that are kind of outside your comfort zone or push your abilities, the more often you're going to screw up and then the more opportunity you have to learn from that. And then to be honest, it's kind of funny, but you almost get to a position where you. You don't feel that uncomfortable, it's not unexpected. You know, you kind of expect you're going to mess up here and there. I remember particularly with the.”

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  18. “Just going to make it happen. And so then, or you know, do my best to. And then I felt like I got in a zone, and I felt like I was right back and kind of Siberia and that headspace. And I found it actually really enjoyed it. I had been a little bit out of, I guess you call it the game because I had had child. And so when we had our daughter, we came back to the States and then a bunch of things happened. And I just ended up, we didn't end up going back to Russia. So it's been a couple years that I was just, you know, we were raising the little girl and boy then. So you've gotten a little soft. So I was like, did I got a little soft? But then it was fun how like after just some days there, I was like, oh man, I feel like I'm at home now. And then it was like you're kind of in that flow state. And it was actually there's a few moments like when you left the ladder up or when the moose that you kind of screwed up a little bit. Oh yeah. How do you go from that moment of like frustration to the moment?”

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  19. “Out in a moment where it's going into the winter. Yeah, they typically do it in temperate, colder climates, things like that, and they start in a September, October. So time's ticking when they drop you off. Yeah, the pressure's on. You get overwhelmed with all the things you have to do right away. Like, oh man, I'm not going to eat again until I actually shoot or catch something. Got to build a shelter. It's pretty overwhelming. Figure your whole location out. But it's interesting because once you're there a little while, you kind of get into a, at least for me. There was like a week or maybe not a week, but that I was kind of a little more annoyed with things. You know, it's like, oh, my site sucks. And then you kind of accept it. Like, you know what? It is what it is. No amount of complaining is going to do anybody any good.”

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  20. “Yeah, it's a show where they take 10 individuals and each person gets 10 items off of a list. You know, basic items would be an axe, a saw, a frying pan, you know, some pretty basic stuff. And then they send them all, drop them off all in the woods with a few cameras. And so the people are actually alone. There's not a crew or anything. And then Basically, live there as long as you can, you know, and so the person that lasts the longest, you know, once the second place person taps out, they come and get you in that individual wins. It's a pretty legit challenge. They drop you off. Helicopter flies out, and you're not going to get your next meal until you make it happen. Do you have to figure out the shelter? You have to figure out the source of food. And then it gets cold.”

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