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  1. “Exhausted, cold, like. You know, you feel sort of nervous, you're in over your head, and then I got down to the river, chopped a whole nice drink, hiked up the river, and eventually got to the other cabin. It was probably three in the morning or something.”

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  2. “Some food, get a drink. I'm thirsty. So I sat down and went to start a fire in my matches had gotten all wet because the snow had fallen on me and soaked me and I didn't have them wrapped in plastic. I was like, oh no. I can't drink water. So I was like, well, I'm just going to power through. I'm halfway there. Well, I kept hiking. And then I realized it was getting night. And then I realized I was at the halfway point because I saw this rock that I was like, oh no, that's the halfway point. I was like, I can't do this. And so I need to go get water. I ended up having to divert down the mountain and head to the water. I ended up there was a whole ordeal. I had to take my skis off because I was going through an old forest fire burn. So they were all really close trees. But then the snow was like this deep. So I was just trudging through and just wishing a bear would eat me, get it over with. But I finally made it down to the water, chopped a hole through the ice. Was able to take a sip.”

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  3. “I got myself into trouble once and I. First time I went to one cabin, I got myself into trouble. First time I went to the other cabin, I nailed it. And so I had two different experiences on my first trip. But the one that I nailed it, I remember I had to go and it's like a day hike. I was like, well, I know the cabin south. And so if I just walk south, you know, the left, the sun should be on the left in the morning and right in front of me in the middle of the day. And by evening it should end up at my right and just kind of guess what time it is and follow along. And it takes all day. And I kid you not, I ended up like 100 yards from the cabin. I was like, whoa, this is the trail. And that's the cabin. Like, oh, amazing. And then the other time I went out and I heading over the mountains and I thought, you know, hours had passed. I probably had gotten slightly lost. And then I thought I was halfway there. So I thought, okay, I'm going to sit down and cook some.”

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  4. “That's funny because it was both basically by landmarks and feel. Like, I didn't have a compass and things like that. By feel.”

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  5. “It's like a weasel, a furry little weasel, and they make coats out of it. And so when I went, he showed me how to open a trap, showed me the ropes, gave me a topographical map. There's one cabin. There's the other. And we parted ways for like five weeks. We did run into each other once in the middle there at a cabin. But other than that, now you're just off by yourself hoping to shoot a grouse or something to add to your noodles and make your meal better or catch a fish and then working really hard trying not to get lost and stuff.”

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  6. “There's a bird trapping was an interesting experience. Basically, what you do in October or something, you'll go out to a hunting cabin and you'll have like three hunting cabins. You'll go stock them with noodles or whatever it is. And then for the next couple months or however long, you'll go from one cabin. Usually the guys are just out there doing this on their own. So they'll go out and they'll go from one cabin and each cabin will have five or six trap lines going out of it. Every day it'll take a half a day to walk to the end of your trap line, open all the traps and a half a day to get back. And they'll do that. This will spend a week at a cabin, open up all the traps, and then it'll take a day to hike over to the other cabin, go to that one, open up all those traps, and then there, and then like three weeks later, so they'll end up back at the first cabin and then check all the traps. And so it's kind of that rhythm and they'll do that for, you know, a couple few months during the winter and you're trapping.”

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  7. “You know, I think because I tried to work hard, tried to be more useful than I was a drain, all that was pretty appreciated me out there. I've definitely heard that a lot, so that's nice.”

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  8. “I've had a nickel for every time I heard like Americans suck, but you're a good American. You're like, the only good American I've ever met. But then, of course, they never met. You're the only one.”

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  9. “I'll just say that that was the tangibly the hardest part about learning the language is that humor comes last and you have to like wait you have to wait that whole year you know or however long it takes you to learn a language to be able to start getting the humor you know some of it comes through but you miss so much nuance and it and and that was really difficult in interaction with people to like just be the guys you know when there's humor going on and you're totally oblivious to it yeah”

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  10. “Yeah, for sure. And I've definitely seen that if you listen to, I think it probably was Putin's speech or something, and you just see that, oh, wow, something major is being lost in translation. You can actually see it happen. I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the case with that whole greatest tragedy as the fall of the Soviet Union. I hear him being quoted as saying all the time. I bet you there's something in there that's being lost in translation that is interesting.”

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  11. “Right, exactly, and so it is rich in that one, and it was interesting coming from an English context and getting a glimpse of that and then wondering about all those Russian authors that we all appreciate that, oh, we actually aren't getting the full deal here.”

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  12. “You could, like, and it would change the meaning if you took ya out and just said. There's like a different emphasis, or maybe, or ya, to be out of the blue, or something, you know, like all these different.”

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  13. “That I thought in a lot of ways was richer than English. It's a very rich language. I remember there was a comedy act in Russian, but he was saying, you know, one word you can't have in English is ne the piripiulsa, meaning like I didn't drink enough to get drunk, you know, that type thing, but it's just a, you can make up these words using different prefetes and suffixes and like blend them in a way that is quite unique and interesting and honestly would be really good for poetry because it also doesn't have sentence structure in the same way English does. The words can be jumbled in a way”

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  14. “It was super interesting. I think I had the thought while I was learning it, one that it was way too hard. Like if I would have just learned Spanish or German, I would be so much farther. But here I am a year in and I'm like, how do you say I want cheese properly? And then, but at the same time, it was really cool to learn a language that.”

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  15. “I was really intentional about trying to know why I'm here. I just know that I, you know, that that's my call is to love one another. And so I would just try to like, and that meant digging people's wells. It might meant just going and visiting in that old lady Babushka at the house. It's lonely or go. And I was really cool. I got to talk to some fascinating ladies and stuff and then go to that village. Hope those families. I'm going to be like cut the hay, be the most the hardest worker I can be because that's my goal here. I didn't have any other agenda except to try to live a life of love and I couldn't define it beyond that.”

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  16. “That's really tough. That's tough because it's unlike on a loan where, because not only can you not speak and you feel isolated, but you're also misunderstood all the time. So you seem like an idiot and all that. And so that was tough. I felt very.”

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  17. “Act and I just asked to have faith someday, and then honestly for the whole first year I went through, that was a very crazy time for me learning the language, being isolated, being misunderstood, blah, blah. And then, but then trying to approach all that with a loving open heart. And then I came back and I realized that that prayer had kind of been answered. That wasn't the end of my journey, but it was, I was like, whoa, that was like my deepest request that I could come up with. And somehow that had been answered.”

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  18. “Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It was like, uh, His darkness in that I didn't know how to parse. What is this thing that's my faith? And what's the wheat and what's the chaff and how do I get through it? Basically, Jess clung to keeping it really simple. And oddly enough in my Christian path, God was actually defined in a certain God is love. And I was just like, that's the only thing I'm going to cling to, you know, and I'm going to try to express that in my life in whichever way I can. And just trust that if I do that, if I act like I, you know, I've heard this lately, but if you just act like you believe, over time that world kind of opens to you. When I said I would go to Russia, I pray. And I was like, Lord, I don't see you. I don't know. But I got this, but I felt like was a clear call. I have only one request, and that is that you would give me the faith to match my action. You know, I'm choosing to believe. Like, I could choose not to because, you know, whatever. But I'm going to choose to.”

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  19. “And, like, we're really close because they found God in prison together and stayed to got out and stayed connected. And so I bounced back between those two families. And they used to always tell me about their third buddy they'd been in prison with, who was a native fur trapper now in the north. And so they'd like, you got to go meet our buddy up north. And one day that guy came through to sell furs in the city. And he invited me to come live with him. And my visa was about to expire. But I was like, when I come back, I'll come. And so I went back home, earned some more money, did some construction or whatever, then went back. Headed north to hang out with Ura and fur trap. And that started a whole new opened a whole new world that I didn't know about.”

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  20. “An American, and I wanted to live with Russians to learn a language. And so he sent me to a neighboring village to live with a couple Russian families that needed a hand, somebody to watch their kids and cut their hay and milk the cow and all that. So I found myself in that little Russian village just Getting to know these two guys and their families. It was pretty fascinating. And of course, I didn't know the language yet.”

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  21. “Though he did, and when he was, he was probably 20 or something, he found his biological mom, told her things. Turns out he had a brother that was going to go over to Russia and help build this orphanage. And that brother was about my age. I remember at that time I read this verse that said, if you're in the darkness and see no light, just continue following me basically. I was like, okay, I'm going to take that to the bank, even though I don't know if it's true or not. And then the only glimpse of light I got in all that was when I heard about that orphan and go build that orphanage. And I prayed about it. And I felt and I can't explain like it brought me to tears. I felt so strongly that I should go. And so I was like, well, that's a clear call. I'm just going to do it. So I just bought a ticket, got a visa for a year, and then I went and helped build an orphanage. And we got that built. And he was.”

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  22. “I'll try to keep it a little bit short on how. But the long story short was I had a brother that's adopted. And when he grew up, he wanted to find his biological mom and just tell her things.”

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  23. “It's so true. And then you don't know how to react. I mean, I was young. I remember I got picked up, it was probably 19 or something. And I was just like, hey, how's it going? And she's like, my husband just died. And then it's all, and I got diagnosed with cancer. And this is that. And pretty bitter and all that. And understandably so. But you're just like, I have no idea how to respond here. And so then you're young and you had to be nice. And I remember that ride being interesting because I didn't really know how to respond. And she”

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  24. “I didn't like titch hacking just because you're Depending on the other people, and it is not. I don't know why you just want to be independent, but you do meet really cool people a lot of times. There's really nice people that pick you up. And that's cool, but I just personally actually didn't do it a lot. And I wasn't, you know, if you're on the streets for 10 years, you'll end up doing it a lot more because you need to get from point A to point B. But we just tried to avoid it as much as we could because didn't appeal to us as much.”

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  25. “Like, oh, we know that's a bad omen. Anyway, sure enough, the police stopped the train. Somebody had seen us on it and they searched it, got us, and threw us in jail. It was not a big deal. We're in jail a couple days. And then, but when we got out, of course, we were in some Podunk town in Indiana and we didn't know where to catch out of there. And so we were at some factory and we just banned and factory and we waited there for like four days, no train that was going slow enough that we could catch. And then we found this big old roll of aluminum foil. And now I got to apologize to this woman because we were so bored just sitting there. We built these hats, you know, like horns coming out every which way and loops and just sitting there. It was at night and some minivan pulled up to this train that was going by. We were like circling their car. Entertaining yourself with whatever you can. Poor lady was terrified.”

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  26. “Oh, you know, it was Trespassing on a train, but we were riding a train, and my brother woke up and they had a dead outland on his head and hit the train and fell on him. And we woke up and we were laughing. That's got to be some kind of bad omen. And then we were looking out of the train and we saw a train worker look and sauce. And he went.”

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  27. “Freight train riding is very boring, and like you'll wait for hours for a train that never comes and then you'll go to the store and come back and it'll be gone. You're like, no. But I remember we went to jail and we got out.”

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  28. “Experiences and stuff help create the person you will be in the future, doing things that you think, like, oh, I don't want to do that. I'm a little scared of that. I mean, that's what you got to do. You just get out of your comfort zone and you will grow as a person and you'll go through a lot of wild experiences along the way. Say yes to life in that way”

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  29. “Stories in those eyes. There was something about enduring difficulty that makes you able to appreciate life and look at it and smile.”

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  30. “Him sometimes, and I'd be gone and then go to New York to visit my sister or something, and I'd sure enough, there's Devo on the street. What do you know? And you go visit him in the hospital because he got bit by 27 hobo spider bites. He was just always rough. Charismatic, vital, like the vitality of life was in him, but it was just so permeated with drugs and alcohol too. I wonder, because I”

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  31. “Them out of their car registration. And then there was like, you know, Devo comes in mind because he was such a unique character as far as just, for one, he would have lived to be 120 because the amount of chemicals and everything else he put into his body and still, hey, man, you know, always get a dime, you know, always spare dime, spare dime, and you have bum change.”

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  32. “Went down there to the DMV and chewed him out that he had to re-register because he already registered. Where's the paperwork? But just kind of views the world from a different lens. I thought, but on everything, he's a character. Now he just lives by digging up bottles and finding treasures in the...”

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  33. “Well, there's a few for sure. I mean, a lot of them I still know that are still around, but the Racco was one guy we traveled. He's become like a brother, but he traveled with my brother for years because they were the two sober guys kind of. Rather than traveling because he was hooked on stuff, did it to escape all that. And so he was kind of sober and straight edge. And he always 5'7", Italian guy that was always getting in fights and he has his own sense of ethics that I think is really interesting because he's super honest, but he expects it of others. And so it's funny in the modern context, the thing that pops in my head is.”

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  34. “In an interesting context when you're on trains because the trains always end up in the crappiest part of town. And you're always outside interacting with the interesting things. Every once in a while you'll have to hitchhike to get from one place to another. One interesting thing is you notice you always get picked up by the poor people or they're the people that empathize with you. Stop, pick you up. You go to whatever ghetto you end up in. People are really all. Real friendly and relatable. It broadened my horizons for sure from being just an Idaho kid and then meeting all these different people and just seeing the goodness in people and this and that. It's also very, you know, a lot of drugs and a lot of people with mental issues that you're Friends with dealing with all that kind of stuff.”

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  35. “That guy, and he was oh, hobo jardo is back. And that's kind of where I got it. But at freedom always was very important to me, I think, from that time on.”

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  36. “With your own thoughts, it's my first time in my life having been like that, you know, and so it was powerful at the time. You know what it did too is it gave me a whole different view of life because I had gotten a job when I was 13 and then 14, 15, 16, 17. And then I was just in the normal run of things kind of. And then that just threw a whole different path into my life. And then I realized some of the things while I was traveling that I wouldn't experience again until I was living with natives and such. And that was, you know, you wake up, you don't have a schedule. You literally just have needs and you just somehow have to meet your needs. And so there's a really sense of freedom you get that is hard to replicate elsewhere. And so that was eye-opening to me. And I think once I did that, I went back. So I went back to my old job at the salad dressing plant. And there's this old cross.”

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  37. “Pushed my boundaries in every which way, you know, froze at night and did all the stuff. And then at the end, I actually wanted to go back and go back home. And so I went on my own and went from Minneapolis back, you know, up to Spokane on my own, which was my first stint of time by myself for like a week, which was interesting.”

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  38. “Know he was sober, so it gives you a different experience than at one point when I was, I guess, yeah, 18, he invited me to come along with him. He'd probably been doing it five or so, four or five years or more. And I said, sure, so I quit my job and went out with them, Hobo Jorda does a bit of an overstuff. I feel self-conscious about that because I wrote trains across the country up and down the coast, back, you know, spent the better part of the year running around riding trains and all the staying in places related to that, but all the people, you know, the real hobos, those guys are out there doing it for years on end. But it was such a, for me, what it felt like was a bit of a rite of passage experience, which is kind of missing, I think, in modern life. So I did this thing that was a huge unknown. I'd been kind of was there with me. My brother for most of it, we traveled around, got.”

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  39. “My brother, when he was 17 or so, he just decided to go hitchhiking and he hitchhiked down to Reno from Idaho wherever we were. And Up loving traveling, but hated being dependent on other people, so he ended up jumping on a freight train and just did it. He honestly, he pretty much got on a train and traveled the country for the next eight years on trains, lived in the streets and everywhere.”

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  40. “What do I feel best? I just try to eat clean. I think. I'm not like super stricter on anything, but I think when I eat less carbs, I feel better, meat and vegetables. We eat a lot of, you know, I eat a lot of meat.”

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  41. “Fundamental. Yeah, that's the, yeah. And you'll notice when the Wolverine came or when animals came, they would eat the skin off of the fish. They would eat the eyes. You know, they'd steal the moose fast. They'd leave all the meat. Yeah, like behind the eyes is a bunch of fat. So yeah, you can kind of observe nature and see what they're eating and know where the... Gold is”

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  42. “Yeah, so you can't just live off. Kill a rabbit, eat the innards and the brain and the eyes, and then everything else is just protein. And so it takes more calories to process that protein than you're getting from it without the fat. So you actually lose, I lost. I had, you know, a lot of rabbits in the first 20 days, I had 28 rabbits or something, but I was losing weight at exactly the same speed as everybody else that didn't have anything. So that's interesting. Yeah, and I'd never tried that before. So I was wondering if I'm catching a ton of rabbits. I wonder if I can last, what, six months on rabbits? But no, you just starve as fast as everybody else. And so I had to kind of learn that on the fly and adjust.”

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  43. “There was something that could get to it. If put on the ground, the mice get on it and they poop on it and they kind of mess it up. So I ultimately kind of just dawned on me, shoot. I'm going to have to build one of those Avenki like food caches. So I did and I put it up there and I thought I kind of solved my problem to be honest the Avenki then so they would have taken a page out of like they would have mixed me in Roland's solution. They built a tall stilt shelter and then put a box on the top that's enclosed. And then the bears can't get to it. The mice can't poop on it. The birds, the wolverine, you know, it's safe. And I never finished it. And in hindsight, I don't actually know why. I think I was just the way at timed, like I didn't think something was going to get up there. Then it did. And then you're counting calories and stuff I should have in hindsight just boxed it in right away.”

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  44. “Yeah, a lot of times, you know, in a typical situation in the woods hunting, you'll raise it up in a tree and a bag, put in like a game bag so the birds can't peck at it and hang it in a tree so that cools. You got to make sure first to cool it because it'll spoil. So you cool it by whatever means necessary, hanging it in a cool place, letting the air blow around it. And then you'll notice that every forest freeloader in the woods is going to come and steal your food. And it was just fun. I mean, it was crazy to watch. It's all the J, all the camp J's pecking at it or everything I did, you know, was.”

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  45. “Yeah, I actually felt really good. I tried to, I think I would have felt better if I would have had a higher percentage of fat because it's still more protein than if you're on a keto diet. You want a lot of fat. And so I didn't, I didn't try to mix in like nature's carbs, different reindeer lichen and things like that. Honestly, I felt pretty good on that diet. I will say.”

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  46. “By eating it. So I was having three good meals a day, and then I'd like cook up some meat and go to sleep. And then wake up in the middle of the night because they're long nights. And like have some meat and eat a bunch at night. So I'd usually have a fish stew for lunch and then moose for breakfast and dinner and then have some for a nighttime snack because the nights were long so you'd be in bed like 14 hours. Wake up and eat and dink around and go back to sleep.”

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  47. “I was trying to eat the thing. I was like not trying to the more the moose is hanging out there, the more the critters. Every critter in the forest is trying to peck at it or mice trying to eat it and stuff.”

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  48. “No, I think that would be, then you see that on some of the people who do that for myself, that would be bad psychology because then you're just always disappointing yourself. You have to be resettled with the fact that this is going to go a long time and suck. Once you come to peace with that, maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised, but you're not going to be constantly disappointed”

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  49. “That was the most genuine shock I could have. I hadn't even like entertained the thought yet. I didn't even think it was, you'd hear the helicopters. I just assumed there were other people out there. I just hadn't thought. You know, and for one, the previous person that had gone the longest had gone 89 days, so I just knew whoever else was out here with me, somebody's got that in their crosshairs. They're going to. Get to 90, and they're not going to quit at 90. They're going to go to 100. I just figured we can't start thinking about the end until a couple months from when it ended. So I was just. Shocked, and they tricked me pretty good. They know how to make you think you're not”

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  50. “I didn't know how to ration my food. I didn't know if I was going to lose after six months. And then it was all going to be for naught. I didn't know if it, you know, I just, there's so many unknowns. You don't know, like I said, if I shot a moose and it was 100 days done. If I shot a moose and you don't know, it's like crap, I could still lose to somebody else, but it's going to be way in the future. So anyway, that for me was definitely the hard part.”

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