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  1. “It would have made it really easy once I got the moose. I could have shot the moose and just not stressed. That would have been like a, and so that was a big difference between the seasons that I felt like. I mean, I felt like the psychology of season seven, they kind of messed up by doing a 100-day cap because for my own experience, that was the hardest part. But Roland's a beast.”

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  2. “If you want to get me the competitive side of it, I would just say I'm pretty dang sure I had more pounds of food and I didn't have the advantage of knowing when it would end, which I think would have been a great psychological.”

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  3. “That's one of the reasons that I was looking forward to talking to you. I think that Prevalue is you're always not out of naivety, but you're always choose to look at the positive. You know what I mean? And I think that's a powerful mindset to have. I appreciate it.”

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  4. “Would be, and there's a chance. I mean, I guess I'm saying if you knew you for some reason knew you were the last. I wonder if you would. I wonder if that was a thought I had, if I knew I was the last person, because here I was having a good time, having fun fishing, plenty of food. But if I knew I was the last person on earth, I don't know that I would even bother. But now if that was for real, would I bother? That's the question.”

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  5. “It is. It really is. It can be a powerful tool, just sharing your experience. I had the, I definitely had the thought. So going back to your earlier comment, but I definitely had the thought. If I knew I was the last person on Earth, I wouldn't even bother. Like, I wouldn't do this. Like, I would just probably just give up. I'm sure. Because even if I had a bunch of food and this and that. But because I knew you're a part, you're sharing it gives you a lot of strength to go through and having that camera just makes it that much more vivid because you know you're not just going to be sharing a vague memory but an actual experience i think if you're”

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  6. “Yeah. Oh, no, the skits. Funny question. That's a good question. I don't know. I actually don't know. I will say that was one of the advantages of being on the show versus in Siberia. So, no, because I didn't in Siberia just do skits by myself, but I didn't film it. And so it was quite nice to have this camera that made you feel like you weren't quite as alone as if you were just in the woods by yourself. And I think for me, I was able to, it was a pain. was part of the cause of me missing that moose you know there's issues with it but i just chose to look at it as like this is an awesome opportunity to share with people a part of me that most people don't get to see you know so that was i just chose to look at it that way and it was an advantage because you could do stuff like that”

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  7. “Know for me, I'm an fairly act, I like to be active, and so I would try to think of creative ways to keep my brain busy. You know, we saw the like dumb rabbit first get, but then I did a whole bunch of elaborate Normandy reinvasion, you know, like there was a every day I would think I got to think of something to make me laugh, you know, and then do some stupid skit. And then that would be, that would fill a couple hours of my time. And then I'd spend an hour to a few hours fishing, and then you spend a few hours.”

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  8. “Catch up with my loved ones, you know, bring what I got back, whether that be psychological or whatever it is. And we'd all enrich each other. And once it's in hindsight, that year would have been like that, talking about it. So I had that perspective. So I knew I wasn't going to tap for any other reason other than running out of food someday. So that was my stressor.”

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  9. “Hardest thing for me would have been the boredom because It's hard to stay busy when it's all dark out when the ice is three, four foot thick. You can't fish. Just think it would have just been really boring. It would have been a real Zen master to push through it. But because I had experiences to some degree, I knew I could. And then I think things that might, you know, you start thinking about family and this and that in those situations. And I just knew that those because I'd gone to all these trips to Russia for a year at a time, the time context was a little broader for me than I think for some people because I knew I could be gone for a year and come back.”

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  10. “And so, how long would that have lasted me, assuming I didn't get anything else? It definitely would have, I would definitely would have reached my goal of 130 or 40 days. And then after that, I thought we were just going to push into then it's just to see how much, who has what reserves and will go as far as we can. And that would get me through January into February. And I just thought, man, that's going to be miserable for people.”

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  11. “When I left, I weighed what I do right now. So I just wait in my normal weight. I had a couple hundred pounds of moose. I had at least 100 pounds of fish. I had a pile of rabbits Wolverine, you know, I had all this stuff, and I know I hadn't gotten cold yet. I just thought, but in my head, I thought if I get today one hundred thirty or forty, even if someone else has big game, I had a pretty good idea they might quit because it would be long, cold, dark days. And how miserable is that? Just it's so boring. It's freezing. And so I thought The only time I thought I could think about winning is when I got today 130 or 40. And I definitely had that with what I had. Now, maybe I would have got, you know, I probably would have gotten more. I had caught that big 20 something pound pike on the last day I was there, maybe catch some more of those. You know, I don't, you know, and I don't know, like I don't know how many calories I had stored, but I had a lot.”

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  12. “Know, and I'll add that for sure, though, that it's the woods, it's nature. You never know how it's going to go. You know what I mean? It's like every time you're out there, it's a different scenario. Whatever. Hallelujah. It went well.”

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  13. “It went pretty well, and I was definitely hard psychologically. I didn't know when it was going to end. Like, I thought this could go, you know, like I said, six months. It could go eight months, a year. And then you start to, you know, two and a three-year-old and you start to weigh in the is it worth it if it goes a year and it's not worth it if it goes eight months and i still lose so i feel like i had this pressure and it was psychologically difficult for that reason physically It wasn't too bad”

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  14. “I was thought, you know, in hindsight, again, when I was out there, I never let myself think you might win. I just was going to be out there as long as I could and tried to remain pessimistic about it. But then I remember a thought that I was like, I wonder if they're going to be able to make this look hard, you know, I did have that thought at one point.”

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  15. “I got shot at Rabbit on day one and I snared a couple rabbits on day two. And then More and more as the time went. So I actually did pretty well on the food front. The other thing is when you have all those berries around and stuff, you do have an ability to like fill your stomach. And so you don't really notice if you're getting thinner or if you're losing weight. So I can say on a loan, I was not that hungry. I've definitely been really hungry in Russia. There were times when I lost a lot of weight. I mean, I lost a lot more weight in Siberia than I did on a loan. Oh, wow.”

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  16. “I don't Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do feel that way. I mean, I don't mind the heat that much, but I think you could get to the place where you appreciated the cold. It's probably just a lack of. Kind of scary when you haven't done it and you don't know what you're doing and you go out and you feel cold. It's like not fun, but I bet you'd enjoy it. You'll have to come out sometime.”

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  17. “I think a little bit of it is learned. He almost learned not to fear it. You learn to kind of appreciate it. And a big part of that is, I mean, to be honest, it's like dressing warm, being good. It's not that, you know, there's no secrets to that. You just can't beat the cold. So you just need to dress warm the native, you know, all that fur, all that stuff. And then all of a sudden, you have your little refuge, have a nice warm fire gun in your teepee, you know, and then I bet you you could learn to appreciate it. Yeah.”

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  18. “Being fed in a golden. Yeah, exactly. Like, if you were to choose, I'd choose the opposite. Oh, yeah, okay. Well, there you go”

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  19. “There is something that's a little bit life giving just because you feel on an edge. You're on this edge. But you have to be alert because even some of the natives I lived with, the lady had face issues because she let her head get cold and they're on a snowmobile, her hat was up too high. You know, that little mistake, and then it just freezes this part of your forehead and then the nerves go. And then you got issues when just hat wasn't high enough. So you kind of got to be dialed in on stuff.”

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  20. “That's interesting. Actually, there's some part of it that really makes you feel alive. You know, I imagine sometime in Austin here, you come go out and it's hot and sweaty and you're like, oh, you get that kind of saps you. There's something about that brist cold that hits your face that you're like wakes you up, makes you feel really alive, engaged. You know, it feels like the margins of air smaller. So you're alert and engaged a little more.”

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  21. “Yeah, you want to make sure you're still feeling things and that you're not toughen through it because you can't really tough through the cold. It'll just gay you.”

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  22. “It got real cold. Yeah, I mean, I think I don't know that I didn't have a thermometer. I imagine it probably got to negative 30 at the most. It might have gotten, it would have definitely gotten colder had we stayed longer. But yeah, to be honest, I never felt cold out there. I was pretty, I had that one pretty dialed in. And once you have calories, you can stay warm. You can stay active. You know, you got to dress warm. Never let there's a good one if you're in the cold. Never let yourself get too cold. Because what happens is you'll stop feeling what's cold. And then frostbite. And then issues. And then it's really hard to worm back up. So every, it was so annoying. I'd be out going to ice fish or something. And then I would just notice that my feet are cold and you're just like, ah, dang it. I just turn around, go back, start a fire, dry my boots out, make sure my feet are warm, and then go again. I wouldn't ignore.”

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  23. “Yeah, we were right near the Arctic Circle. I don't know, it was like 60 kilometers south of the Arctic Circle. It's a really cool area, really remote. Thousands of little lakes. You know, when you fly over, you're just like, man, it's incredible. There must be so many of those lakes that people haven't been to. You know, it really was a neat area, really remote. And for the show's purpose, I think it was perfect because it did have enough game and enough different avenues forward that I think it really did reward activity. So I think, but it's a special place. It was Dene, it was a tribe that lived there, the Dene people, which interestingly enough, here's a side note. When I was in Siberia, I floated down this river called the Pudkaman Nayatunguska, and you get to this village called Sula Mai, and there's these Ket people they're called. And there's only 600 of them left. But this is in the middle of Siberia, not in like the Pacific coast, but their language is related to the Dene people.”

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  24. “Before it worked. The difference between a log cabin and a warm log cabin is like an immense amount of work and all the chinking and all the door ceiling and the chimney has to be anyway so otherwise it's just going to be the same ambient temperature as outside. I don't think alone is the proper context for a log cabin. I think log cabin's great in as a hunting cabin. If you're going to have something for years, but in a three, six month scenario, I don't know that it's worth the calorie expenditure.”

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  25. “Done burning and was just hot coals. I could close it, seal it up, and keep the heat in. So it actually worked pretty well.”

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  26. “Yeah, it's a fun thing to do. It works well. Dig a little hole, start stacking rocks around it, make it make sure it's opening, and it actually works. So that's not as hard as you might think. For me, where I was, I kind of came up with it as I was there, with my A-frame. I hadn't built an A-frame shelter like that before. And so when I built it and then I had put a bunch of tin cans in the ground so that air would get the fire so it was fed by air, which helps create a draft. But I realized in an A-rame, it really doesn't, the smoke doesn't go out very well, even if you leave a hole at the top. It like collects and billows back down. So then I cut some of my tarp and made this and cut a hole in the A-frame. And then I made like a hood vent that I could pull down and catch the smoke with. And so while the fire was...”

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  27. “I'm not going to knock it. Everybody's got different strokes for different folks, but in my particular idea was to keep it fairly simple, improve it with time, but spend most of my energy. You know the shelter you really need to think about. It can't be smoky because that'll be miserable. But it is nice to have a fire inside. So you need to have a fire inside that's not going to be dangerous and smoke free. And then also airtight because you're never going to have a warm shelter out there because you don't have seals and things like that. But if long as the air is not moving through it, you can have a warm enough shelter.”

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  28. “But you'll see. So I kept my shelter really pretty simple with the idea that I built a simple A-frame type shelter and then most of my energy is going to be focused on getting calories. And then, of course, there's always going to be downtime. And in that downtime, I can tweak, modify, improve my shelter, and that'll just be a constant process that by the time you're there a few months, you'll have all the kinks worked out. It'll be a really nice little setup. But you don't have to start with that necessarily because you got other needs you got to focus on. That said, you'll see a lot of people on a loan that really focus on building a log cabin because they want to be secure or incorporating whatever the earth has around, whether it be rocks or whether it be digging a hole. And we've seen some really cool shelters. And I...”

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  29. “There's all kinds of philosophies and shelters, which is fun. People, it's fun to see people try different things. Mine was fairly basic for the simple reason that I lived, you know, winters through winters in Siberia in a teepee. So I knew I didn't need anything too robust as long as I had calories, I'd be warm. And Particularly worried about the cold.”

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  30. “See it, yeah. You want to be, yeah, right. And so ideally, you know, and it depends, you're always going to make give and takes. And one thing with shelters and location selection and stuff, it's another thing you just have to trust your ability to adapt in the situation because everybody has a particular, you know, you got an idea of a shelter you're going to build. But then you get there and maybe there's a good cliff that you can incorporate, you know, or then you just become creative. And that's a really fun process too, to just allow your creativity to try to flourish in it”

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  31. “If you like dropped off, and this is all new to you, of course, all those things are going to be things you have to really think through and plan when you're thinking about a shelter, you have to think of, oh, here's a nice flat spot. You know, that's a good place, but also is there firewood nearby. And if I'm going to be here for months, is there enough firewood that I'm not going to be walking half a mile to get a dry piece of wood? Is the water nearby? Is it somewhat open, but also protected from the elements because sometimes you get a beautiful spot? It was great on a calm day and then the wind comes. And so there's all these factors, you know, even down to taking in what. Game is doing in the area also, and how that relates to where your shelter is.”

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  32. “You're kind of in that flow. And so I'd wake up and be like, maybe I'll go fishing, and then I'll wander over and fish. And then I'd be like, I'm going to go check the trap line ad every day if I add five or ten snares. You know, you're constantly adding to your productive potential. But nothing's really scheduled. You're just kind of flying by the seat of your pants.”

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  33. “Are you like figuring out one thing about wilderness life in general is it's remarkably less scheduled than anything we deal with. Schedules are fairly unique too of a modern context. You'd wake up and you just sort of you have a confluence of things you want to do, things you need to do, things you should do, and you just kind of tackle them as you see fit as it flows in, you know, so, and that's actually one of the things that people really that I really appreciate about that lifestyle is it really is.”

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  34. “And then you just go around like that, and that's how people did it forever. The pressure was, I noticed it, you know, with that, you got that mousse and then you're happy for a week or so, and then you start to be like, you know, this is finite. I'm going to have to do this again. And imagine if you had a family that was going to starve if you weren't successful, you know, this next time. And they're just always that pressure. It made me really Appreciate the amount, but people had to deal with.”

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  35. “And then that'll buy you three or four months of time. Continue and you know to keep hunting again, and you just have to roll off of that, but every, you know, depends on where you are, what opportunities are there”

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  36. “Once I reassessed, and right away, I saw that there were moose tracks and such, so I just started to plan for that. I moved my camp into an area that was as removed as I could be from where all the action is, where the tracks were, so that I wasn't disturbing animal patterns. I made sure the wind, the predominant wind was blowing out my scent to sea, or to the water. And then really, to be honest, if you want to actually survive somewhere is different than alone, but you do have to be active. And you're going to have to, you're not going to live, you're not going to be sustainable by, you know, starving it out. You'd have to unlock the key that is sustainability. And I think there's a lot of areas that still have that potential, but you have to figure out what it is. It's usually going to be a combination of fishing, you know, trapping and then hunting. And then once you have some, the fishing and trapping will get you until you have some success hunting.”

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  37. “That was the plan. And I thought, but when I got there, for one, I had a hard time catching fish off the bat. They didn't come like I was hoping. And then for two, it had burned prior. So there were no berries. And so there were very few berries, which meant there weren't grouse. There weren't bear. They had all gone to other places where the berries were. And so what I had grown accustomed to kind of relying on in Siberia wasn't there, you know, so in Russia, which was a similar environment. It was just grouse and berries and fish and grouse and berries and fish. And then occasionally, you know, you get a moose or something, but I had to reassess, which was part of me being grumpy at the start. This place sucks. And then...”

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  38. “I thought I would just catch a bunch of fish because I'm on a really good fishing lake. Catch a whole bunch of fish and let them rot for a little while and then just drag them all through the woods and to a big pile and then hunt the bear on that big fish pile”

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  39. “You have to be really adaptable because everything's going to, it's always going to look different in your situation, your location. I actually had a, what I thought was a pretty good plan going into a loan. Then it just, you know, the location didn't allow for what I thought it would.”

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  40. “The snare wire was good. I ran some, you know, I put out, I used all my snare wire. I ran trap line, which is just a series of traps through the woods and brush every place you see sign. Put a snare, put a little mark on the tree so that I knew where that snare was and just make these paths through the woods. And I put out, you know, I don't know how many, 150, 200 snares. So every day I get a rabbit or two out of them. So I had a lot of rabbits, but once I got the moose, I actually took all those snares down because I didn't want to catch anything needlessly. And when you come to find out, you can't live off a rabbit. Man cannot live off a rabbit alone, as turns out.”

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  41. “No major regrets. I took the saw kind of. I thought it would be more of a calorie saver than I didn't really need it. In hindsight, if I was doing season seven instead of six and got to watch, I would have taken the net because I just planned to make a net, but I would have rather just had two nets, brought one, and left the saw because in the northern woods in particular, every tree is, you know, the size of your arm or leg, you can chop it down with an axe and a couple swings. Yeah, yeah, you don't. Really need this saw. And so it was handy at times and useful, but I think it was my, if I had to do nine items, I would have been just fine without the saw.”

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  42. “Yeah, the challenge is that you don't exactly know what your site's opportunities are going to be. So you don't really know. Should I bring a fishing net? Am I going to even have a spot to net or not? Things like that. I brought an axe, a saw, a leatherman wave, a fero rod is like sparks to start a fire, a frying pan, a sleeping bag, a fishing kit, a bow and arrow trapping wire and paracord. So those are my 10 items.”

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  43. “Oh, no, I would definitely practice with a target a lot. Again, you kind of have an obligation to do your best because you don't want to be flinging arrows into the leg of an animal. And it's a cool way, honestly, to provide quality meat for the family. It's all raised naturally and wild and free until you bring it home into the freezer.”

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  44. “Yeah, I didn't grow up hunting. I grew up in an area that a lot of people hunted, but my dad wasn't really into it, and so I never got into it until I lived in Russia with the natives. It was just such a part of everything we did and a part of our life that when I came back, I got a bow and I started doing archery in Virginia. It was a pretty easy way to hunt because the deer were overpopulated and you could get these urban archery permits. So you would go out and every couple days you'd have an opportunity to shoot a deer that they needed population control. And so there were a lot of them and it gave you a lot of opportunities to learn quickly. So that's what got me into it. And then I found I really enjoyed it.”

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  45. “Exactly, how many times do they snap a stick and watch them run off? And, like, darn, my stock was failed. Or, you know, so yeah, you're just in that ecosystem”

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  46. “Form of it, and that you get those experiences more often than with a rifle. So I don't know. I enjoy it a lot. And the way they do regulations and such kind of the best times to hunt are usually allowed for bow because they're trying to. Know, keep it fair for the animal and such”

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  47. “Really, I don't know, intimid experiences with the animal just because. Because you're in it, you're kind of in its world. You're playing its game. It has its senses to defend itself, and you have your wit to try to get over those. And it really becomes, you know, it's not easy. It becomes kind of that chess game. And those prey animals are always tuned in. It's, you know, slightest stick they're looking for wolves or for whatever it is. There's something really pure and fun about it. You know, I will say there is an aspect that is fun. There's no denying it. It's like how we're. People have been hunting forever. And I think it speaks to that part of us somehow. And I think bow hunting is probably the most.”

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  48. “When you hunt with a bow, you just get so much more up close to the animals. You know, you can't just get it from 600 yards away. You actually have to sneak in within 30 or so yards. And when you do that, the experiences you have are just, they're way more dragged out. So, you know, your heart's beating longer. You have to control your nerves longer. More often than not, it doesn't go your way and the thing gets away. And, you know, you've been hiking around in the woods for a week and then your opportunity arises and floats away. No. But at the same time, that's the only time when you really have those interactions with the animals where you got this bugling bull, you know, like tearing at the trees right in front of you and other cow, elk and animals running around you. You end up having”

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  49. “Plays a really major role in that. Like, I literally know how many animals a year it takes to feed my family and myself. I actually know the exact number. And it's like, and I know what the cost of that is. And I'm aware of it because I'm out in the woods and I see these beautiful elk and moose. And I really love the species, love the animals. But there is a fact that. One of those individuals is going to have to feed me. And particularly on a loan, it was very heightened that experience. So I shot that one animal and I was so thankful, you know, that I wanted to give that big guy a hug and like, hey, sorry it was you, but. Had to be some”

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  50. “Death is a part of it, yeah. That's an interesting thought because no matter what your relationship to. However, you choose to go through life, whether you know whatever you eat, whatever you do. Death is a part of life, you know, like every animal that's out there is living off of a dead, even plants, you know, it's all, we're all part of this ecosystem. I think it's really easy in a particularly in an urban environment, but anywhere to think that we're separate from the ecosystem. But we are very much a part of it, whether it be farming requires all this habitat to be turned into growing soybeans and da-da-da-da. And when you get the plows and the combines, you know, you're losing all kinds of different animals and all kinds of potential habitat. So it's not cost free. And so when you realize that, then you want to produce the food and the things you need in an ethical manner. So for me hunting.”

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