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  1. Throughout the peace process, UNITA was refurbishing all this equipment. Added to the materiel it had imported, this equipment greatly increased UNITA's mechanized assets for the force it was organizing. In other words, what UNITA purchased, what it refurbished, and what it had hidden amounted to a great deal of equipment. >l<>l<>l< "Voice (spoke in Portuguese; interpreted into English at the scene): My name is Jose-Antonio Gil and I am 32 years old. I was in the commander in charge of air operations. The major objective of that centre was to intercept all communications from the Angolan air force. UNITA received 15 to 20 flights a day, including IL-76s, Antonov 72s and Antonov 32s, carrying T-74 tanks, BMP-2s, BM-2ls, BM-27s and other equipment for infantry troops. "Voice: Had you personally seen the equipment you mention?

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  2. I was working very closely with Savimbi; I was in his military office. At the same time, I held the post of chief of logistics for strategic equipment. UNITA bought a great deal of materiel, and many items including tanks, troop-carriers, cannons, mortars, mortar grenades, launching pads for missiles and ammunition of various calibres. UNITA also bought many accessories for tanks, which made it possible for UNITA to refurbish tanks it had captured in the course of the 16 years of war. "So let me repeat that during the 16 years of struggle, when there were incursions by South African forces in southern Angola in the Cunene area, those forces offered most of the Soviet equipment captured to UNITA because it was not in line with their military doctrine. This included anti-aircraft guns and reactive long-range guns.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  3. Andulo was the centre of UNITA power, and Savimbi began constructing his large underground bunker and squirrelling away fuel throughout the period of United Nations supervised peace, in preparation for the war to which he seems always to have planned to return in order to win what he had failed to achieve in the United Nations supervised elections of 1992. Once we returned to Rwanda, we met the Minister of Defence, the Minister of Finance and the Chief of the Defence Staff, General Do Matos, and we were able to meet the senior officers whom I mentioned earlier. We also, of course, met the officers I listed earlier, and their testimony follows on the video tape. >l<>l<>l< "Voice (spoke in Portuguese; interpreted into English at the scene): My name is Jasinto Ricardo Bandua.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  4. The long dirt strip at Andulo routinely handles some of the largest transport aircraft in the world, which brought in tanks such as T-64s and T-55s; armoured fighting vehicles such as BMP-2s; multiple-launch rocket systems; towed and self-propelled heavy artillery; a full range of anti-aircraft guns and missiles; a myriad of mortar systems of all calibres; anti-tank weapons; mines from Claymores to small, sophisticated anti-personnel devices; and medium- and small-calibre weapons systems.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  5. Just before Christmas, I asked the Government of Angola if, accompanied by members of the panel, I could examine the weapons seized and talk to UNITA soldiers. The air strip at Andulo was the principal site at which Security-Council-imposed sanctions prohibiting the supply of weapons and fuel to UNITA have been routinely and grossly violated - up to, that is, mid-October, when the Angolan army captured these weapons and denied UNITA its most important access to war materiel.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  6. We visited a camp containing about 25,000 internally displaced Angolan refugees, and a new, more permanent development designed by the Government to relieve the pressure on these desperate and long-suffering people. The relief agencies are doing their best in appalling circumstances, but the challenge of coming to grips with the plight of two million internally displaced persons in the midst of the ever-threatening civil war is immense. I think that, aside from a film crew, we were the first foreigners to visit Andulo since the war began a year ago. That city, captured by Government forces last October, was Savimbi's base of operations, and UNITA still has forces only 50 kilometres away.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  7. A video will now be shown - one which has been thrown together in the 36 hours since my return rather than over the two or three months which a more polished production would normally require. A videotape was shown in the Council Chamber. After meeting extensively with Foreign Minister Miranda and President Dos Santos, Mr. Angel and I, accompanied by the Vice-Chairman and the Rapporteur of the expert panel, travelled inland to witness firsthand the ravages of the Angolan civil war and to visit the recently captured UNITA capital of Andulo. Members of the Council will know that the cities of the central highlands of Angola have borne the brunt of this long and devastating war. We visited the principal capital of Huambo, where nothing in that once beautiful city remains undamaged.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  8. Chicoti, whom I was not able to meet in Luanda and am therefore glad to see here; the Director-General for International Organizations, Ambassador Correia; and, of course, Ambassador Van Dunem "Mbinda", Minister Counsellor Coelho Da Cruz and other colleagues at the Permanent Mission of Angola, who made this visit possible. Allow me also to thank you, Sir, and United Nations colleagues in Luanda and here in New York for truly outstanding support. The Department of Public Information technicians who travelled with me were enterprising and indefatigable and the staff at MONUA headquarters provided assistance well beyond what could reasonably have been expected by me.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  9. It would be premature to suggest that this war of three decades' duration is at an end, but it may be nearing the beginning of the end. We in the international community must therefore do all we can to help bring this end about, including through the rigorous application of sanctions, to ensure that UNITA is not allowed to rearm, resupply or otherwise remain a military, rather than a political, force. Throughout my visit, the Government of Angola could not have been more accommodating or welcoming. I extend thanks, in this regard, to the Angolan officials with us today, including the Vice-Minister of External Relations, Mr.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  10. As with the detailed information regarding specific individuals and countries involved in the violation of the sanctions, the expert panels will need to consider whether this more general information can be confirmed in light of the other information available to them. The conclusion I draw from my meetings is that sanctions are beginning to have a real impact on UNITA's capacity to pursue its military objectives. Sanctions are having an effect, for example, by impairing UNITA's ability to transport the weapons systems and the fuel it needs in Angola and by reducing the number of people prepared to offer support to UNITA in violation of the sanctions. When this is coupled with the Angolan Govemment's recent military successes, the overall impact upon UNITA's capacity to wage war has been significant indeed.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  11. These weapons dealers are often responsible for making transportation arrangements for weapons sold - in effect, "f.o.b. Andulo" - as well as for finding buyers for the rough diamonds for which the weapons are bartered. UNITA does not use mercenaries for fighting, but does employ foreign trainers. They, too, are often hired by the arms dealers. UNITA's petroleum supplies are in very short supply and their replenishment is an absolute priority for Savimbi. UNITA used the period of partial implementation of the Lusaka peace accord to replenish its armaments, to procure and store large quantities of petroleum and to otherwise prepare for war.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  12. What I am doing is sharing fascinating testimony which, in some instances, indicates that UNITA's method of operating may be different from what I- and I presume the members of the Council - had commonly assumed. For example, the testimony suggests the following: UNITA does not operate an extensive financial network abroad and occasionally has severe problems with liquidity. Some quantities of money are held by various heads of Government on Savimbi's behalf. UNITA otherwise sells or barters parcels of rough diamonds from time to time to cover specific operating expenses or to procure specific armaments. UNITA procures weapons through a small number of weapons brokers - international arms merchants - rather than through direct contact with Governments.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  13. The expert panels, two members of which were with me throughout my visit to Angola, will look closely at the information we received last week and will try to corroborate it with other information it has developed from other sources in the course of preparing the report it is to submit to me next month. What I would like to do today is to show brief excerpts of the videotaped testimony, in which former members of UNITA offer information on how UNITA operated in areas relevant to the sanctions regime. Through the good offices of the excellent News and Media Services Division of the Department of Public Information, we have reduced those 15 hours to 27 minutes of highlights for the Council today. Let me be clear: I am not presenting conclusions, nor am I necessarily endorsing the information we shall shortly hear.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  14. My own impression is that these individuals offered their testimony freely and that, in most cases, they welcomed the opportunity to bear witness. In the course of the testimony of these very well- placed witnesses, we did receive very specific information relating to violations and violators of United Nations sanctions. Today, I will not name names because I do not wish to pre-empt the report of the expert panel, in which members of the Council have invested heavily. In presenting that report to the Council in March, however, I do expect to bring this information to the Council's attention, in company with specific recommendations as to how such persistent flouting of the will of the Council can be stopped and, thus, how Savimbi's lifeline to the outside world can be severed.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  15. We met with Mr. Sakaita, an adult son of Mr. Savimbi, and with a junior officer who had been sent abroad by UNITA for military training. Angolan officials were not present at these meetings, which, at Mr. Miranda's suggestion, took place at the headquarters of the United Nations Observer Mission in Angola (MONUA) so that we and they would feel at ease. Four of the individuals requested by me were requested at extremely short notice and in each instance the Government located the individual we wished to meet, wherever that officer was serving in Angola, and arranged to have him flown to Luanda specifically for the meeting. In response to my very specific questions, each of the six confirmed on video that they were speaking freely and that they had not been coached or otherwise influenced in what they chose to say.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  16. The second was to visit the areas and see the military equipment recently captured from UNITA. The third was to meet with individuals who had defected from UNITA or been captured in recent fighting. I met with six individuals for more than 15 hours, including General Jasinto Bandua, who had overall responsibility for UNITA's logistics from 1995 to 1998 and had also been in charge of Mr. Savimbi's private office. We met with Colonel Kangunga "Kalia", who had served as a representative of UNITA in posts in West and Central Africa. We also met with Colonel Kangunga's brother, another colonel, who had been responsible for Mr. Savimbi's communications network. We met with Lieutenant-Colonel J ose-Antonio Gil, who was responsible for air movements in and out of Andulo, UNITA's main airstrip, and for air control in the central highlands.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  17. I now give the floor to the Chairman of the Security Council Committee established pursuant to resolution 864 (1993) concerning the situation in Angola. Mr. Fowler (Canada), Chairman of the Security Council Committee established pursuant to resolution 864 (1993) concerning the situation in Angola: My comments this morning will relate exclusively to my visit to Angola last week from 8 to 16 January. While brevity makes sense, particularly given our late start this morning, there are lessons learned from my visit which I hope members of the Council will agree deserve due consideration. The objectives of my visit were threefold. The first was to consult with the Government of Angola on developments regarding the application worldwide of Security Council sanctions against UNITA.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  18. Kieran Prendergast, Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs, then move directly to a report from Ambassador Robert Fowler of Canada, Chairman of the Security Council Committee established pursuant to resolution 864 (1993), then ask the Vice-Minister of Angola to speak, and then the floor will be open. Once again, I urge everyone to consider the issue of brevity. I give the floor to the Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs, Mr. Kieran Prendergast,

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  19. The President: In accordance with the understanding reached in the Council's prior consultations and in the absence of objection, I shall take it that the Security Council agrees to extend an invitation under rule 39 of its provisional rules of procedure to Mr. Kieran Prendergast, Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs. There being no objection, it is so decided. I invite Mr. Prendergast to take a seat at the Council table. The Security Council will now begin its consideration of the item on its agenda. The Council is meeting in accordance with the understanding reached in its prior consultations. Members of the Council have before them the report of the Secretary-General on the United Nations Office in Angola (UNOA), document S/2000/23. We will start with a report from Mr.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  20. The situation in Angola The President: I should like to inform the Council that I have received a letter from the representative of Angola, in which he requests to be invited to participate in the discussion of the item on the Council's agenda. In conformity with the usual practice, I propose, with the consent of the Council, to invite that representative to participate in the discussion, without the right to vote, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter and rule 37 of the Council's provisional rules of procedure. There being no objection, it is so decided. On behalf of the Council, I welcome the Vice-Minister of External Relations of Angola, Mr. Georges Chicoti. At the invitation of the President, Mr. Chicoti (Angola) took a seat at the Council table.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  21. I apologize for the delay in calling this meeting to order, which was occasioned primarily by a conversation with President Chiluba concerning next week's events in the Security Council on the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Because time is so short, I want to stress that we have previously unscheduled Security Council informal consultations at 3 pm. today to consider another matter of great urgency to the Council. I would ask everyone - I repeat, everyone - to bear in mind that we are starting 35 minutes late and that we have an important agenda item this afternoon. Some of us, at least, have a very important set of obligations at the lunch hour concerning the departure of our esteemed colleague from China. I hope everyone will take this into account as we proceed. Adoption of the agenda The agenda was adopted.

    2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source

  22. Noting with concern the shortfall in funding for refugee and internally displaced persons programmes in Africa, the Council calls upon the international community to provide such programmes with the necessary financial resources, taking into account the substantial needs in Africa." This statement will be issued as a document of the Security Council under the symbol S/PRST/2000/ 1. There are no further speakers on my list. The Security Council has thus concluded the present stage of its consideration of the item on its agenda. The meeting rose at 1.30 pm.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  23. "The Security Council underlines the importance of safe and unhindered access, in accordance with international law, of humanitarian personnel to civilians in armed conflict, including refugees and internally displaced persons, and the protection of humanitarian assistance to them, and recalls the responsibility of all parties to conflict to ensure the safety and security of such personnel. The Council condemns recent acts of deliberate violence in Africa against humanitarian personnel. "The Security Council recognizes the extensive experience and burden of African States in hosting refugees and in dealing with the effects of refugee camps and settlements. The Council welcomes the efforts made to support the needs of refugees in Africa, in particular those of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and host countries.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  24. "The Security Council reaffirms the responsibility of States hosting refugees to ensure the security and civilian and humanitarian character of refugee camps and settlements in accordance with existing international standards and international refugee, human rights and humanitarian law. In this regard, the Council underlines the unacceptability of using refugees and other persons in refugee camps and settlements to achieve military purposes in the country of asylum or in the country of origin.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  25. The Council takes note of the efforts made within the United Nations system aimed at promoting an effective collective response of the international community to situations of internal displacement. The Council calls upon States, in particular States with situations of internal displacement in Africa, to cooperate fully with such efforts. The Council further notes that the United Nations agencies, regional and non-governmental organizations, in cooperation with host Governments, are making use of the Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement, inter alia, in Africa.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  26. In this regard, the Council affirms the need to ensure adequate protection and assistance for both refugees and internally displaced persons, taking into account the special difficulties in the provision of humanitarian assistance to IDPs in Africa. "The Security Council urges all parties concerned to comply strictly with their obligations under international humanitarian, human rights and refugee law, and emphasizes the need for better implementation of relevant norms with regard to internally displaced persons. The Council invites States which have not already done so to consider ratifying the relevant instruments of international humanitarian, human rights and refugee law.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  27. "The Security Council expresses its grave concern that alarmingly high numbers of refugees and internally displaced persons in Africa do not receive sufficient protection and assistance. In this context, the Council notes that refugees are protected under the 1951 United Nations Convention and the 1967 Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees, the 1969 OAU Convention Governing the Specific Aspects of Refugee Problems in Africa, and other relevant initiatives in the region. The Council also notes that there is no comprehensive protection regime for IDPs and that existing norms are not being fully implemented. The Council recognizes that large-scale human suffering as well as violations of human rights and humanitarian law are consequences and contributing factors to instability and further conflict.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  28. The Council underlines the obligation of all Member States to seek to settle their international disputes by peaceful means. The Council condemns the deliberate targeting of civilians and practices of forced displacement. The Council reaffirms its commitment to the principles of political independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of all States. The Council emphasizes that national authorities have the primary duty and responsibility to provide protection and humanitarian assistance to internally displaced persons within their jurisdiction. The Council reaffirms the obligation of States to prevent arbitrary displacement in situations of armed conflict, and reaffirms as well their responsibility to meet the protection and assistance needs of internally displaced persons within their jurisdiction.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  29. "Bearing in mind its primary responsibility under the Charter of the United Nations for the maintenance of international peace and security, the Security Council underlines the importance of taking measures aimed at conflict prevention and resolution in Africa. The Council stresses the need to address the root causes of armed conflict in a comprehensive manner in order to prevent those circumstances which lead to internal displacement and the outflow of refugees. The Council notes with concern that the majority of refugees, returnees and internally displaced persons and others affected by conflict are women and children and stresses the need to intensify efforts to meet their special protection needs, including their vulnerability to violence, exploitation and disease, including HIV/AIDS.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  30. I think this will have been a very productive session, but only if there is follow-up. I invite the non-governmental organizations to be as active as possible in keeping the pressure on all of us in this Chamber. Following consultations among members of the Security Council, I have been authorized to make the following statement on behalf of the Council: "The Security Council recalls its previous statements concerning protection for humanitarian assistance to refugees and others in conflict situation, the situation in Africa, the protection of civilians in armed conflict, and the role of the Security Council in the prevention of armed conflicts. The Council further recalls its previous relevant resolutions, as well as relevant resolutions of the General Assembly.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  31. Ogata's response in a moment - will stimulate all of us, with her leadership and, I hope, that of the Secretary- General, to re-examine the definitions and to treat internally displaced persons, who are 90 per cent of the problem in Angola and 70 per cent of the problem world-wide, in such a way that they do not fall between the bureaucratic cracks. I now resume my functions as President of the Security Council. I would like to ask the High Commissioner to comment or respond to anything she heard. From this point forward until I read the Presidential Statement, I would like to consider this a conversation, not a series of set-piece speeches. We welcome your comments, Mrs. Ogata.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  32. Without putting a formal and specific proposal on behalf of my Government before you today, I would hope that all of us would recognize that what we must do is expand the definition of what is a refugee, erode - if not erase - the distinction between a refugee and a person who is internally displaced, deal with these problems, fix the responsibility more clearly in a single agency and not fall back on one of the worst of all euphemisms, "coordinate closely". In Angola's case, this is a physical impossibility, since the United Nations agencies are scattered in 10 different buildings in a city without good working telephones or good infrastructure. And let us get on with trying to address the problem. Speaking in my national capacity, I hope that this conversation we are having today - to continue with Mrs.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  33. Some of the non-governmental organizations in the room have told me how sometimes the UNHCR does not support efforts, even when it has surplus capacity of motor vehicles or personnel, because of bureaucratic restrictions, restrictions of the host Government or, I regret to say, occasionally inadequate relationships between the agencies involved. The reason we all turn to UNHCR, and then often criticize it, is precisely because it is our last best hope for dealing with these problems. Therefore, the pressure should not be viewed as criticism, and the criticism itself should be viewed within the context of the organization that we look to most of all for leadership.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  34. Speaking from my own perspective, having worked on this issue for a quarter of a century, I think that responsibility for internally displaced persons should be fixed in a single bureaucratic entity. When my colleagues and I were in Angola last month, we saw that 90 per cent of the refugees were classified as internally displaced persons and that, for the most part, they were out of reach of the international community's assistance. But to the extent they had support from the international community, it tended to be from the World Food Programme (WFP). The WFP is a fine organization, but the best organization operating in the world - the best one, with the longest track record and the best infrastructure - is the UNHCR.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  35. We need to acknowledge frankly that there is no real difference to the victims involved. Then we need to call upon the world body and all its specialized agencies, and through its Member States, to figure out what to do with the problem that was not fully foreseen when the United Nations Charter was shaped and when the UNHCR drew its mandate. For example, Francis Deng is responsible to the Commission on Human Rights in Geneva. That is fine; I applaud the Commission on Human Rights. But in my view, he should be working directly with and for the UNHCR, with the Security Council and with the Economic and Social Council across the board, in order to stimulate all of us to deal with this problem. His book - Roberta Cohen's book - contains many practical suggestions and a lot of analysis. I would go further.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  36. But these are people, and to a person who has been driven from his or her home by conflict, there is no difference between being a refugee or an internally displaced person. In terms of what has happened to them, they are equal victims, but they are treated differently. I recognize that this distinction raises complex legal issues of international sovereignty. It raises enormous questions of resource allocation, and it has far-ranging bureaucratic implications as well. I also recognize that the Governments represented in this room and elsewhere have various reactions to the issue. But let us remember that individual lives are at stake. What is an internally displaced person? What is a refugee? They do not care; they are all homeless. We must address this problem.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  37. I hope we will all keep a careful brief on that, Mr. Ambassador, and I hope you and your colleagues who were there will keep us informed. Allow me to turn to the subject under discussion today. This is obviously a huge problem. I wish to focus on the fact that two thirds of the world's refugees do not fall under the official purview of the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). We call them "IDPs". In our Mission across the street, we have tried to figure out ways of abolishing this odious term. The very use of initials to refer to people is in itself not healthy. When I was a young child growing up in New York, we talked about DPs, so it is not new to have such phrases.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  38. That puts a burden on the international community which in this case is no longer necessary. Finally, some elements within the Indonesian military are still supporting the militia. I mention this point today because next month, the International Force, East Timor (INTERFET) will be replaced by the United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor (UNTAET). There are still 1,000 militia in the area. They tested the Australian-led INTERFET and found that that was a dangerous and sometimes fatal action. I would not be surprised if they try to test the United Nations when the command changes, and this could create additional problems in the camps, as well as a problem for us that we do not need when we want to focus on Africa. In this room, we have many of the distinguished people who, led by Ambassador Andjaba, went to East Timor.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  39. Since everything that needs to be said about refugees in Africa has already been said, and Sir Jeremy Greenstock has also alluded correctly to the fact that refugees in other parts of the world are in dire straits, I would make only one specific regional comment and then move on to the question of internally displaced persons, and that relates to West Timor. I must say frankly that I remain dissatisfied with the rate of return from West Timor since the trip I made in November. It fluctuates. I recognize that some 20 per cent or more of those refugees will not ever wish to go back to East Timor. Fine. The Indonesian Government should resettle those people immediately, because some of them are terrorizing the camps and others are just sitting there in lieu of getting out into society.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  40. I also want to echo what the representative of Mali said, that it is time to take more concrete actions. I also echo what Ambassador Qin Huasun of China said, that we are here to correct imbalances in the world, and I will specifically address the imbalance I wish to focus on at the moment. I failed to acknowledge at the outset that we are also joined today by Francis Deng, the Special Representative of the Secretary-General on internally displaced persons. He and Roberta Cohen have written a very important book on the subject, and I would commend it to all members.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  41. We are all refugees in another sense of the word, from the Cambodian-Thai border, where we began our deep personal involvement and, I might add with great pleasure, our deep personal collaboration in the field of refugees. I commend you, Mrs. Ogata. I commend you, my dear friend, for the precision and brilliance of your statement, and I echo what Ambassador van Walsum said about your fearlessness in addressing the fact that there are political causes for refugees, and they must be addressed. You have helped us for next week by pointing out that what we discuss on Burundi will affect your work. Too often here we deal only with the consequences and not sufficiently with the causes, and you have done us a great service in laying the framework for next week's discussions.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  42. Thank you, Ambassador, for your important statement, which I think went precisely to the goals of this meeting. I will now make a statement in my capacity as the representative of the United States and then ask Mrs. Ogata to respond, if there is time - a quick colloquy - and then I have a presidential statement that we have all agreed to. First let me say that the 14 previous speakers have so adequately covered the terrain that I would like simply to abandon my prepared text, which has been distributed. I would like to speak from the heart, to be quite frank, because I have working on this problem since 1978. In fact, the year I started working on it was the year I first met Mrs. Ogata.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  43. We all know that Ambassador Qin Huasun's time in New York in his current job is drawing to a close, and we thank him for his participation today in the midst of his busy round of farewell calls.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  44. I hope everyone in the audience knows that the comments I made to an important and esteemed colleague, with whom we work closely and collaboratively on a wide range of issues, were only in jest.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  45. I hope that we will all study your specific proposals. Perhaps you could distribute those so that we could look at them as soon as possible. I now welcome back from his protracted holidays the Ambassador of the Russian Federation. We look forward to your statement, Ambassador Lavrov.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  46. In light of the time, I would remind members again that we are trying to operate under what I would call the Greenstock rules of short, non-repetitive speeches. A lot of issues have already been raised, and I hope for a maximum exchange of views with Mrs. Ogata, because our purpose here is to give her our points of view and learn from her so we can factor it into the remainder of the month and beyond.

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  47. Mrs. Ogata, would you like to respond at least to the first question on maintaining the security and neutrality of the camps in the Great Lakes region, and to make any other comments you would like to make?

    2000-01-13 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4089 (2000) · source

  48. I thank the Ambassador of France for his kind words of support for the "month of Africa", and for his accurate appreciation of what will be attempted this month. I would now invite Mrs. Ogata to respond to the four or five questions put directly to her at the beginning of Ambassador Dejammet's remarks, concerning West Africa, Sierra Leone, Guinea and the humanitarian impact of the situation between Ethiopia and Eritrea.

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  49. I thank the representative of Malaysia for the kind words he addressed to my delegation and for his reference to a second wake-up call. For those present in the Chamber today who were not here on Monday during the meeting on AIDS, I should like to explain that the concept of the "month of Africa", is that this week we will talk about AIDS and refugees - the closely interrelated problems that touch so many different countries in so many different ways and cut across national boundaries - and that next week and the week after we will address the specific conflicts. Ambassador Hasmy is absolutely correct.

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  50. I thank all of them for being here today, and I hope they will keep their voices loud and firm, because the non-governmental organization community is so important. I will now invite members of the Council to address specific questions to Mrs. Ogata. We want to have an informal discussion, at the end of which I will offer a presidential Statement.

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