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Holbrooke

lines on the record: 676
first: 1999-09-11
most recent: 2001-01-19
sittings or episodes: 43
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“I thank the representative of China for his kind words addressed to the American presidency. I want to welcome to the Chamber the Secretary- General of the Organization of African Unity, Mr. Salim Salim; the Foreign Minister of the Democratic Republic of the Congo; the Minister of Cooperation of Uganda; and -V "Mu-MMJ A-tuvv other representatives who have come here for this extraordinary meeting. I also want to thank the representative of Egypt for announcing that he, too, will circulate his statement. I consider this a great act of friendship in the interests of our effort, particularly coming from a country of such enormous importance to all of us in Africa and around the world.”
2000-01-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption2 (2000) · source
“We have a very busy agenda, very limited time and a presidential statement to issue. Let me thank those nations that have agreed to circulate their statements; I will ask the Secretariat to do so. Those countries are Brazil, Cape Verde, Colombia, Eritrea, India, Israel, Lesotho, Norway, Tanzania and the United States. If any other nation wishes to distribute its statement, we will be happy to do so.”
2000-01-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption2 (2000) · source
“This has been, obviously, a remarkable day and a promising day - as the Secretary-General of the Organization of African Unity said, a momentous day - but the proof of the pudding will be in what we can produce in the way of a presidential statement and, ultimately, a Security Council resolution to respond to the statements made and desires expressed so eloquently by the heads of delegations and Presidents who assembled here today. I apologize to those who have not had a chance to talk today. We will look forward to learning their views in other forums as quickly as possible, and, if necessary, we will reconvene. The meeting was suspended at 5.20 p.m.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“I thank the representative of Argentina, and we look forward to turning the gavel over to him a week from tomorrow - I need some rest. Several of the speakers inscribed on the list have already notified us that they would like the presidency of the Security Council to circulate their statements in writing. This includes both members of the Security Council and non-members; we will do so as requested. We will meet in informal session tomorrow morning to discuss the presidential statement in draft, at 9 am. Our goal will be to move as quickly as possible on it. We welcome the views of all members of the Security Council and other concerned parties through procedures that have already been established for individual input.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“I thank the representative of Tunisia for the kind words he addressed to me. The last speaker for today is the representative of Argentina, who will assume the presidency of the Security Council a week from tomorrow.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“This completes the ministerial portion of today's important meeting. The next speaker was supposed to be the United States. I am waiving our turn. We now begin the rotation of the Security Council members. Several speakers have already said that they would like to remove themselves from the list of speakers. Anyone who does so is welcome to send us a copy of the text and, as President, I will distribute it immediately to all other members of the Security Council. So I hope that speakers' remarks will be as short as possible.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“I hope the Minister of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom will be with us for the rest of the week as we continue our deliberations. I am delighted that the Minister Delegate for Cooperation and Francophonie of France is with us. I know he has just returned from a trip to Africa of great importance.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“It is now my great pleasure to welcome back to the Council one of the two men - the other is Sir Jeremy Greenstock - who presided over the Council last month in our seminal discussions of African issues during the presidency of the United Kingdom: the Minster of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom, Mr. Peter Hain.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“The next two speakers will be the representatives of the United Kingdom and France, at the ministerial level. As I said earlier, the United States will forgo its national statement, and we will then have completed the ministerial statements at this meeting. I will call on the permanent representatives who wish to take the floor. Because of the tremendous time limits, the very large number of representatives who wish to speak and the absolute need, because of the pressing obligations of all the heads of Government here, to suspend the meeting today at 5 pm. or, perhaps, a few minutes afterwards, I urge everyone to speak very briefly.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“Mr. Minister, thank you for your participation, in fulfilment of a pledge your President made when I visited him last month in Bamako. We are delighted that you have joined us today. I thank you also for your very important remarks and for your leadership role in these problems. It is now my very great honour to welcome and call on the Foreign Minister of Canada, The Honourable Lloyd Axworthy. We are delighted that he has made the long, difficult trip from Canada to New York.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“I would like to mention now that I will forego our space in the speakers order and not deliver a national statement today in the interests of time and to allow more people to speak. I would also like to note the return to the Chamber of President Mugabe of Zimbabwe - we welcome you back - and the Secretary-General of the Organization of African Unity, His Excellency Salim Salim. We are delighted that you were able to return. I now call on the Minister of the Armed Forces of Mali, Mohamed Salia Sokona.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“I thank the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Burundi for his contribution to this week's and to last week's debate. The next speaker is Ambassador Abdellatif Rahal of Algeria, personal representative of the current Chairman of the Organization of African Unity.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“I thank the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Belgium for his participation today. I would just note in passing that with the exception of the presidency, the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Belgium is the thirteenth speaker and the first to speak from the European continent. I hope that is indicative of his last point, that this is the rest of world in support of an African solution, to use Secretary- General Salim Salim's phrase, an African solution to an African problem. We now return to the continent of Africa. It is my honour to call on the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Burundi, who was with us last week and is still available under the previous rule. We welcome him back for another meeting of the Security Council.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“Louis Michel, to take a seat at the Council table and to make his statement. We thank him for making the trip to join us today.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“"The early resolution of the conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo will certainly have a positive effect on the security of the entire subregion and give substance to the decision of African leaders at their 1999 Algiers summit to make 2000 truly the year of peace, security and solidarity. It is important, therefore, that all efforts be made at this meeting to reaffirm the collective commitment of all parties to the Lusaka Agreement. The United Nations should also give concrete support to complement the regional and continental arrangement aimed at peacemaking and peacekeeping in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. "With best wishes for a successful deliberation, "Olusegun Obasanjo, President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria." I would like to invite the Vice Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs of Belgium, Mr.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“It is appropriate and fitting that the United Nations is taking an early lead in the new millennium in focusing on issues of peace and security on the African continent. "The impressive turnout of a large number of African leaders in the Council today to participate in the efforts at resolving the conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo is a solid show of the commitment of African leaders to truly turn 2000 into a year of peace, security and solidarity. Certainly, their presence should convince the international community that we are committed to ending conflicts afflicting some States on our continent.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“To this end, I am delighted to send this message of goodwill to members of the Council and participants in this historic open meeting on the Democratic Republic of the Congo, including my brother heads of State who have travelled all the way from our continent, for a very successful deliberation. Their presence demonstrates the commitment which the Organization of African Unity and all African leaders have towards the peaceful resolution of the conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. "It is gratifying that the United Nations Security Council, under the presidency of the United States, at the very beginning of the new millennium is devoting a substantial portion of its work and time to the issues of peace and security in Africa.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“I thank the Minister of Foreign Affairs of South Africa for coming here and representing President Mbeki. I thank her for her kind words addressed to the American presidency and I thank her for her country's contribution to peace. I have been asked to read out a message addressed to me from the President of Nigeria: "On behalf of the Government and the people of Nigeria, I congratulate you on your assumption of the presidency of the Security Council during the first month of the new millennium and for the high profile and attention which you have given to African issues in our Organization.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“The first speaker on my list is the Minister for Foreign Affairs of South Africa, Her Excellency Ms. Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma. I invite her to take a seat at the Council table and to make her statement. I welcome the Minister as the representative of the great nation of South Africa and thank her for participating in today's important meeting. I know that Secretary of State Albright deeply regrets that we were unable to hear Ms. Dlamini-Zuma's statement before lunch.”
2000-01-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4092Resumption1 (2000) · source
“Members of the Council have before them document S/2000/29, which contains the text of a draft resolution prepared in the course of the Council's prior consultations. It is my understanding that the Security Council is ready to proceed to the vote on the draft resolution before it. If I hear no objection, I shall put the draft resolution to the vote now. There being no objection, it is so decided. A vote was taken by show of hands. In favour: Argentina, Bangladesh, Canada, China, France, Jamaica, Malaysia, Mali, Namibia, Netherlands, Russian Federation, Tunisia, Ukraine, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, United States of America The President: There were 15 votes in favour. The draft resolution has been adopted unanimously as resolution 1286 (2000).”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“We welcome his statement and will pay it close attention, and we thank him for his patience in listening to the previous speakers.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I would like to announce that, in consultation with the Congress - seven of whose members are here today with me, two of whom are sitting directly behind me as I speak: Congressman Meeks and Congressman Ackerman - the United States is prepared to provide an additional $500,000 to facilitate the peace process. But I must be frank: no solution to the Burundi crisis will be easy. While the most vital ingredient is the will and effort of the parties, no agreement will last without sustained international effort. Therefore, let us do everything we can to assist President Mandela as he moves forward. I now resume my functions as President of the Council. I now call on the Minister of External Relations and Cooperation of Burundi, His Excellency The Honourable Severin N tahomvukiye.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“In this context, we welcome the statement made yesterday by the Government of Burundi that it would review the policy and begin dismantling a portion of the camps. But this is not enough, although it is an important step in the right direction. We also condemn the attacks on innocent civilians, who have been victimized by all the armed belligerents. This culture of impunity must come to an end. Those who have committed crimes against innocents must be brought to justice. Finally, and no less urgently, as reflected in this morning's meeting, the international community must support the Arusha process. Today's resolution will be an important start. But we must build on our work here, and our Government is prepared to do its part.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I would associate myself in that regard with the strong and eloquent remarks made by several people here, notably Ambassador Greenstock of the United Kingdom. Today some 350,000 Burundians are forced to live in these makeshift camps, in appalling conditions. We understand the complexities of the conflict, or we hope we are trying to understand them, and we have heard the justification for regroupment. But this complexity does not absolve the Government from its basic responsibility under international law. We urge the Government of Burundi to take the steps necessary to alleviate this untenable situation. It must permit humanitarian workers to have immediate, full and unconditional access to regroupment camps. It must adhere to the United Nations Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“The solution we seek in Burundi is what we seek for all the conflicts in Africa - and we will discuss the Congo next week - a peace not based on military stalemate, not on ethnic division or hatred, but a peace based on national reconciliation. The late President Nyerere, one of Africa's greatest statesmen, made great progress in the Arusha process. Now, with the leadership of President Mandela, we have an opportunity to revitalize that effort. We support President Mandela's call to pursue an inclusive peace process. In order for peace to be lasting and just, the negotiations must address the concerns of all parties. The United States must again condemn the policy of forced regroupment and is concerned about the conditions of the so-called regroupment camps in the vicinity of Bujumbura and elsewhere.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I want to thank all Council members for their support of today's meeting and of previous meetings and, of course, for their excellent support of President Mandela. A special thanks goes to Secretary- General Kofi Annan for his leadership today and his participation in this entire meeting. I shall now make a brief statement in my capacity as representative of the United States. The United States is deeply concerned about this human tragedy. President Mandela's eloquent and forceful statement reflects the urgency of the crisis. Burundi may be a small country, but the ramifications of the current crisis are enormous.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“In conformity with the usual practice, I propose, with the consent of the Council, to invite that representative to participate in the discussion, without the right to vote, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter and rule 37 of the Council's provisional rules of procedure. There being no objection, it is so decided. At the invitation of the President, Mr. Ntahomvukiye (Burundi) took a seat at the Council table.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I should now like to call for a brief suspension of the meeting while the Secretary-General escorts President Mandela out of the Chamber. We will resume in about three or four minutes. I hope all participants and observers will stay, because we still wish to hear from the Ambassadors of Jamaica, Namibia, Ukraine, Malaysia, Russia, Bangladesh and the Netherlands. The meeting was suspended at 11.50 am. and resumed at noon. The President: President Mandela has asked me again to convey his deep regret that he could not stay for the entire meeting; I have promised him that we will provide him with the texts of the remaining statements. I should like to inform the Council that I have received a letter from the representative of Burundi, in which he requests to be invited to participate in the discussion of the item on the Council's agenda.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I will now call on the representative of the United Kingdom, after which we will have a very short suspension so that the Secretary-General and I may escort President Mandela out of the Chamber. We will then resume as rapidly as we can. I know that we are all very sorry that we could not have all the speeches while President Mandela was here, but that was unavoidable given the pressures this morning.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I know that President Mandela needs to leave, but he has said that he would like to stay for a couple of more speeches, at least. I thank President Mandela. We know how unbelievably tight his time is.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I thank the Ambassador of Mali for being so concise. I remind everyone that we agreed yesterday that all speakers would try to limit themselves to about four minutes so that President Mandela could hear as many comments as possible before being required to leave.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“Upon his retirement, which he so richly deserves to spend in peace with his new wife and his children and grandchildren, he described himself to my wife and me last month as just another pensioner. Well, some pensioner! He has accepted one of the world's most difficult jobs, while retaining an active interest in other issues around the world. We welcome him today in his first appearance before the United Nations Security Council. Our goal is simple: to hear Mr. Mandela's report and, to echo the words of our Secretary-General, to learn from him how we may assist him. The Security Council is unanimous in appreciating that he has undertaken this immensely difficult task. It is now my great honour to ask Mr. Mandela to address some remarks to the Security Council and to the world.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“When he emerged from prison, in one of the great moments for all of us who were able to see it, and we realized that he was going to take his place on the world stage in a new and historic role - a role of historic proportions - it meant even more to us. I am confident that history will rank him alongside Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr., as one of the seminal figures of our century - as perhaps our leading moral authority. What he did for his country alone would justify his unique role; but he is also a symbol to so many people around the world. Mr. Gusmao in East Timor has talked about Mr. Mandela as his inspiration; Ibrahim Rugova in Pristina, Kosovo, has talked about it; and I know that is true all over the world.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“Let me explain for the people who are attending today how we will proceed. We will hear a discussion by President Mandela of what he has done and what he plans to do. There will be other speakers; every member here has asked to speak. The first speaker after President Mandela will be the Ambassador of Mali. At the end of the session, we will adopt a Security Council resolution. That will take place before lunch today. It is now my great honour to call on the Facilitator of the Burundi peace process, Mr. Nelson Mandela. I just want to make a brief comment on behalf of all of us. For almost everyone in this room - certainly, for myself - Mr. Mandela was a large figure in our lives before we even knew what he looked like, as we had not been able to see photographs of him for so many years.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“It is now my great honour to call on my friend, our colleague and our associate, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Mr. Kofi Annan, to begin today's discussion.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“In accordance with the understanding reached in the Council's prior consultations, and in the absence of any objection, I shall take it that the Security Council agrees to extend an invitation under rule 39 of its provisional rules of procedure to the Facilitator of the Burundi peace process, Mr. Nelson Mandela. There being no objection, it is so decided. I invite Mr. Mandela to take a seat at the Council table. I would note for the members of the Security Council and for the audience that President Mandela will need to depart this meeting at approximately 11.45 am. At that point, we will have a brief suspension and then resume the debate. The Security Council will now begin its consideration of the item on its agenda. The Council is meeting in accordance with the understanding reached in its prior consultations.”
2000-01-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4091 (2000) · source
“I will make only one observation in closing, and that is that very strong unanimity has been expressed here today in support of the sanctions. We look forward to Ambassador Fowler's more specific report in the near future. My Government will do everything that it can, and more than it has done in the past, to assist that process when we hear more details from Ambassador Fowler. I urge him to report to us as soon as he can, in the next month or so. I hope that the world is listening very carefully. I hope that the people in the jungles of Angola, who have continued this war unnecessarily for so long, will hear this message - dim though it may be by the time it gets there - and understand that the war benefits nobody and damages the great potential of the people of Angola.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“We listened to the statement made by the Ambassador of Namibia with particular attention, in light of his proximity to the country we are discussing today.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“We very much share the heartfelt sentiments expressed by the representative of Mali, particularly at the end of his statement, when he referred to the tragic loss of the United Nations Special Representative, his illustrious compatriot, Mr. Alioune Blondin Beye, As President of the Council, I wish to express the unanimity with which we share that last expression of concern.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“We look forward to reading Peter Hain's statement in full. I think we can see that this meeting is already beginning to produce the kind of focus that it was intended to produce when it was first called.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“If we run out of time, as the last speaker I will waive my right to speak and simply make my statement available for the public record. I think most of what I was going to say is contained in the troika statement in any case; there are a few nuances which I would add as a national means.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“I would like to draw the attention of everybody here in the Chamber and watching on television to the fact that the troika - with the Russians, speaking for us; our colleagues the Portuguese, under Ambassador Monteiro, who was with us today; and the United States - is working effectively on this issue. This is an important statement and I hope people will pay it due heed here and in the rest of the world. I particularly draw attention to the fact that, on a day when attention is focused on areas where not all the members of the Security Council are in full agreement, the troika is functioning effectively and that the United States, Portugal and the Russian Federation have come up with this important statement.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“I thank the Vice-Minister for his very important and comprehensive statement and affirmation of his Govemment's policy, for his very kind words about our Government and for his kind words addressed to me.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“I thank Ambassador Fowler for that Academy Award-winning movie and his excellent report. I congratulate him on his difficult mission and on laying the basis for the reports to come in the future, which will be of such immense importance. We now have the Vice-Minister of External Relations of Angola, after which we will hear from the other members of the Security Council. The first speaker after the Vice-Minister - I would like to explain in advance, so members are all ready - will be Ambassador Lavrov of the Russian Federation, who will speak on behalf of the troika. After that, other countries will speak. I will forgo our national statement and simply submit it for public record if we run out of time because of the pressures today. I welcome to the Security Council the Vice-Minister of External Relations of Angola, Mr.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“From then on, Savimbi was compelled to start acquiring fuel. This became the first major priority. So the aircraft that arrived was only to bring fuel - nothing else. And that is when the countries that were quoted were offering their contribution - to allow the sale of fuel by using their countries. "Mr. Fowler: Fuel arrived in drums or in bladders? "Voice (spoke in Portuguese; interpreted into English at the scene): In drums. "Mr. Fowler: Do you have any idea of the volume? "Voice (spoke in Portuguese; interpreted into English at the scene): Yes. There were planes with 20,000 litres in drums. Then the Ilyushin brought in 50,000 in containers."”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“"Voice (spoke in Portuguese; interpreted into English at the scene): From 1996, the time that I began to be involved in the purchase of fuel, until December 1998, it amounted to 2.3 million litres. This was just imports or acquisitions. Also, as we bought, we used part. When the fighting erupted, UNITA had about half a million litres. "Mr. Fowler: In December 1998? "Voice (spoke in Portuguese; interpreted into English at the scene): November. I was in charge; I was controlling this. The armoured vehicles consumed a lot, and the movement of troops was another drain on fuel. By January, UNITA was at less than 100,000 litres. That was within one and a half months. "Mr. Fowler: That was 500,000 to 100,000? "Voice (spoke in Portuguese; interpreted into English at the scene): Below 100,000.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“Fowler: And these middlemen often presented themselves to UNITA in competition with each other, and UNITA was able in effect to have an auction - it was able to choose the best price among the people who were competing to sell? "Voice: Exactly. "Mr. Fowler: What about the transport? "Voice: Transport is another competition. "Mr. Fowler: Did the arms merchant arrange the transport? "Voice: The one who wins the challenge sometimes also comes with a proposition. He will say, 'Okay, that is my price. If you agree with this price I will just put the materiel where you want it to be.' >l<>l<>l< "Mr. Fowler: General, we will continue with this discussion about how UNITA meets its fuel requirements. We have just agreed, I think, that it is not done by guys with one drum on the back of a truck. We know that there were large air shipments.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“They count them and evaluate the price, and just say, 'Look, $2 million. You agree that the debt amounted to $2 million.' "Mr. Fowler: So UNITA has its diamond expert there, too? "Voice: Exactly. "Mr. Fowler: The arms dealer has his expert in diamonds and UN ITA has its expert in diamonds, and they agree on what is $2 million? "Voice: Exactly. When UNITA and the liaison man agree, they just have in their own charge the transport of the diamonds. And they know how to sell them. UNITA is no longer inside. The only thing that UNITA needs is the materiel. "Mr. Fowler: So you are saying that UNITA did not talk to Governments about buying weapons; they just talked to middlemen? "Voice: Exactly. "Mr.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“Bring me the price of the materiel. UNITA chooses; they propose the kind of materiel they need. They establish contact with their agents. UNITA does not control it. After, they come with the prices. Also, UNITA does not contact only one intermediator. It chooses the best price. After finding the one whose price is the best, they say, 'Okay, the way to pay this is just to negotiate. You have it.' But they also have the diamonds. If he says, 'Okay, for this materiel, just give me $2 million. Do you have an expert who knows how to buy diamonds?', they go to look for their experts. That process is carried out. At the time when there were airfields in Angola, the expert just came to Angola. "Mr. Fowler: And the payment was made in diamonds? "Voice: They receive those diamonds.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source
“"Voice (spoke in Portuguese): Yes. >l<>l=>l< "Voice: My name is Alcides Kangunga, also known as Kalia. UNITA does not contact its contractors. There are people whom we just call the international market in weapons. We do not know who is the boss behind it, but there are intermediaries, who are in contact with UNITA. Those guys, who are kept in secret - unfortunately, I was not in that camp and I do not know exactly who - are the people who are in contact with the one who comes to UNITA, for example. When they come, if UNITA agrees with them, the rest is between those guys and the other one: UNITA does not know who. For the payment, UNITA says, 'Okay, you know this history of sanctions'. As there are sanctions against UNITA, we do not use banks; we have no more money outside; we have no dollars. But we have products; we have diamonds.”
2000-01-18 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4090 (2000) · source