Phil Flanagan
Fermanagh and South Tyrone · Sinn Féin · Northern Ireland
“I thank the Minister for his answer. There is an old guise that you should never ask a question that you do not know the answer to. The question that I submitted asked the Minister how many social houses had been started in the 2015-16 financial year, but somehow it was changed.”
“I thank the Minister for his attempt to answer the question. I put him on notice that it was not he who initiated the process, but I am looking for him to intervene and stop it as a locally elected representative. <BR /> <BR />There are roughly 1,000 people on the housing waiting list in Fermanagh, and nearly 300 of those are in stress.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a Cheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as ucht a fhreagra. I thank the Minister for his answer. The licence has not been extended, but does the Minister accept that the decision to extend InfraStrata's time frame for a work programme sets a dangerous precedent on fracking, particularly given that InfraStrat…”
“How does the Minister square that with the ministerial involvement of his predecessor, Nelson McCausland, interfering in where social houses are built for political, parading or electoral reasons.”
“I thank the Minister for giving way, and I have no difficulty in supporting this request for information sharing, but I have two short questions. First, he said that this is a tax on employment. Does he have any sort of a headline figure as to what the scale of the financial implications of this will be for local employers?”
“<BR /> <BR />Requirements are now being placed on the Department with regard to careers. That is a very positive development that the Minister brought forward after the Committee initiated a review of careers advice, which was then followed up by a piece of work that the Minister commissioned from an expert group on careers.”
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“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as ucht a fhreagra. The Minister has accepted that zero-hours contracts have a negative impact on workers, but his proposals fall far short of what is required to protect and promote workers' rights. He says that a total ban could be easily circumvented. I do not agree with using the fact that employers would find some way of continuing to exploit workers as a justification for not banning these things. Will the Minister provide some evidence to justify his claim in a briefing document that a ban on zero-hours contracts would have a disproportionate impact on flexibility in the economy and potentially remove some employment opportunities? I certainly do not agree with that statement.”
“People have accepted that you cannot live on much higher wages. That is why there are benefits, such as the family tax credits and child tax credits, to top people up and subsidise them to work in low-pay jobs. What we need is the creation of jobs that pay people to come off benefits rather than forcing them off benefits through a range of punitive sanctions and taking disability payments off people who genuinely need them.”
“I thank the Member for giving way again. He talks once more about making work pay and lauds the fact that our unemployment figures have gone down. However, if he actually drills down into the details, what he will see is that, while employment statistics may well have gone down, what are filling the gap are low-pay, part-time jobs, zero-hour contracts and complete underemployment. People are still living in poverty. Work is not paying for the vast majority of our people. Trying to get people to come off benefits and go into a job that will further reinforce a life of poverty for them is not a sustainable alternative. <BR /> <BR />If you want radical changes to the welfare system here, you need to create jobs that pay people to come off benefits. Nobody wants to live on £72 a week. You cannot live on £72 a week.”
“I thank the Member for giving way. He talks about ending benefit dependency. We all agree with that: we all want people to move into work, if they are able to work. However, the Member's solution to ending benefit dependency is to take people off benefits and give them nothing. Does he have an alternative apart from cutting their dole and cutting the disability payments of people who need them? Do you just want to take them off benefits, give them nothing and forget about them?”
“Standing up and reading into the record people who are paid £8,000, £11,000 or £12,000 a year for work is not the solution. If you want to talk about making work pay, then pay people a living wage for the job that they do. Making work pay is not going to work by cutting people's benefits.”
“Are you telling me that, because one section of people who work are paid £8,000 a year, which is far less than what you need to live on, people who are unable to work due to the fact that they cannot find a job, they have a serious disability or their children have serious disabilities that require constant care should be forced to live in poverty too? Incentivising people to work or making work pay is not about cutting the dole or disability benefits; it is about making work pay by paying people a proper wage for doing a job.”
“I thank the Member for giving way. He said that the average salary for an individual was about £24,000 or £25,000, and he compared that with the small number of families with an income from the Social Security Agency of over £30,000. He is not comparing like with like; he is comparing one individual with a salary with a family that has maybe a number of children taking in benefits. <BR /> <BR />My main point is this: I fundamentally agree with you when you say that we need to incentivise people and we need to make work pay. You then cited somebody earning £8,000 a year.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. I thank the Minister for his answer and comments. Oisin's parents, Nigel and Sharon, were forced to make a very difficult decision on whether to donate their son's organs. They decided to do so, in the belief that it was what he would have wanted. In doing so, they demonstrated huge strength in dealing with their tragic loss, but parents and families should not be forced into making that decision. I say this to the Minister and his Executive colleagues: let one of Oisin's many legacies be the introduction of opt-out organ donation legislation. I support the introduction of such legislation. When that happens, will the Minister row in behind it and support it, as his predecessor and the First Minister appeared to do previously?”
“If the Minister will oblige and is willing to grant me more time to bend his ear, I have put in a request for him to meet me and a number of business organisations. <BR /> <BR />I will leave it at that, in the hope that we get out of here at some stage this evening.”
“There is a small restaurant and guest house in Belcoo that pays the same rates as a commercial bank on High Street in Enniskillen. I have spoken about that bank before, because it keeps charging me £42 a go in unauthorised overdraft fees. I will tell you this, though: the bread that I buy out of that restaurant is very nice, and I will not have anything bad said about it. <BR /> <BR />Such an approach is regressive and does not support our business sector. It is deeply unfair, and I implore the Minister to give some consideration to changing completely how rates here are calculated so that they are not solely based on the property that a business occupies and at least take some consideration of the level of profit that a business can make.”
“However, the £30 million in rates conversions that he and his colleagues introduced have significantly softened the blow and reduced considerably any potential rates increase that domestic householders and businesses in Fermanagh face. <BR /> <BR />However, in the revaluation of non-domestic rates, which was recently announced, there were always going to be winners and losers. That is just the nature of a rates revaluation, but it is my belief that the rates system is unfit for purpose. It does not give any consideration to the level of profit that an organisation makes, which is unfair. Simply to take the estimated rental value of a building over a year and set that as the rates bill is not a good approach. We have businesses from completely different sectors paying the same rates, which is deeply unfair.”
“Nobody got everything that was wanted out of the Budget, but the parties that are speaking against it and that may vote against the Bill do so without offering any alternative. To be fair to the Alliance Party, it proposed some alternatives, including an increase in tuition fees and the introduction of regressive water charges. Thankfully, the Executive have decided not to introduce those measures, and that will be the case as long as we are about. <BR /> <BR />Finally, I want to give the Minister something that he can address by touching on the impact of rates on businesses across the North. RPA has had a negative impact in some areas, and nowhere more so than in Fermanagh.”
“I do not see that strategic approach being implemented by some of our overpaid managers, who have amassed over £1 million in pension pots and earn colossal salaries every year. All the while, front-line staff, many of whom are paid below the living wage, have a claim for a very basic pay increase to meet inflationary demands rejected. That two-tier payment policy in the health service is not acceptable, and it needs to change. <BR /> <BR />In closing — I am kind of getting there — the Budget that we have agreed is not the Budget that we would all have wanted if we were starting from a blank canvas, but we must remember that we do not have the full range of fiscal powers to make the changes that we need to see here.”
“<BR /> <BR />In Fermanagh, people wait for up to two years for a routine hip or other orthopaedic operation. That is simply unacceptable. The amount of money that the Western Health and Social Care Trust, and probably the other trusts, spend on managing pain and providing often inadequate home-help provision for people stranded in their beds because there is such a lengthy waiting list for hip operations makes no sense to me. It does not make financial sense, and it certainly does not make social sense that you leave somebody lying there for two years, taking a wide range of pain management medication daily. <BR /> <BR />We have been told that the Health Department is implementing Transforming Your Care and invest to save in the long term.”
“There were problems with the availability of insurance cover in the old hospital, but it is my understanding that all of those have been sorted out. <BR /> <BR />An increase in patient numbers would bring increased revenue for the Western Trust. It would also allow for services to be expanded in the hospital because clinical professionals would be able to build up more hours and deliver more services locally instead of people having to travel to Craigavon, Belfast or Derry for a routine clinic appointment. As far as I can remember, the logic for building the hospital in Enniskillen was the opportunity that it offered for patient cross-border mobility. Effective cross-border planning for our hospital is not happening yet, but there is still time.”
“I encourage the Health Minister to put that investment into Enniskillen hospital at the earliest opportunity and to retain and expand maternity services there. <BR /> <BR />In wider terms, we are missing a significant opportunity in Fermanagh. More people from across the border availed themselves of services in the old Erne Hospital than use the current hospital. I cannot get my head around that because coupled with that has been the reduction of services in hospitals adjacent to the border in the South. Common sense tells you that more people would try to use a hospital near to them, so why have we not increased the number of people crossing the border to use our world-class hospital, as the Health Minister would, rightly, describe it? There needs to be a focus on attracting patients from the South.”
“<BR /> <BR />There are certainly enough people in Fermanagh, Tyrone, south Donegal, Leitrim, Cavan, Sligo and Monagahan to justify a fully functional maternity services unit in the Enniskillen hospital. We need investment in staff at the hospital to meet the standards in the 2012 maternity strategy. We need ST3-level resident cover in obstetrics, paediatrics and anaesthetics, as well as compliance with the review of paediatric health-care services in hospitals and the community. To do that, the paediatric resident on-call medical staff have to be at ST4-level or above. So, this investment has to be a priority. It has been sitting with the Department, the Public Health Agency and the Western Health and Social Care Trust for a considerable time.”
“<BR /> <BR />The hospital in Enniskillen is constantly promoted as one of the great things that the Executive delivered in recent years, and it certainly is, but there are problems with it, too. We have simply built a hospital that may well become a white elephant unless adequate services and investment are put into it. The hospital needs an investment of between £1 million and £1·5 million to protect maternity services, which are under threat. At present, any expectant mother with an elevated BMI or diabetes is encouraged to go to Derry to give birth. That has to change. It is not good enough to tell mothers that they have to drive an hour and a half from home to have a child.”
“It is quite common for us to attack the Minister, but we might excuse him for this one. <BR /> <BR />Queen's has implemented a serious cut to the students' union and the student support mechanisms that it offers, yet there has been absolutely no mention of addressing the salary of the vice chancellor, who earns £250,000 a year and gets a house, a car and probably a driver. He also has a wine budget, but it is more important to cut somebody working for the students' union than to try to address those issues. Those are the types of solution that we want our universities to work towards. Instead of hammering students by campaigning on the radio for an increase in tuition fees, they should be looking at where substantial savings can be made closer to home without having an impact on front-line services.”
“Anybody who visits Enniskillen now will see that most of that site has been cleared. There is a huge opportunity there for a shared services site on which we can have a range of public-sector services all located in the one place instead of, as some Ministers are trying to do, moving them to Omagh or Dungannon. There is scope there for the likes of a library, the jobs and benefits office and the Housing Executive to co-locate along with the further education college in Enniskillen. That would provide synergies for delivering public services and help to regenerate a part of Enniskillen. <BR /> <BR />The DEL budget has been given a considerable uplift from the draft Budget to the final Budget, but I have serious questions about how that has been used.”
“We cannot repair and rebuild our economy and our public services without maximising the returns for all our citizens, building sustainable employment opportunities across the North and the island as a whole and ending regional disparities, and job creation is central to this. <BR /> <BR />Our wider economy is too heavily focused and reliant on consumer spending, which is often driven by consumer debt, funded by extortionate payday loans and high-interest credit cards. Such economic drivers need to be adjusted, and we need to move to a more sustainable economic driver. <BR /> <BR />What are the priorities as I see them for Fermanagh in the coming period? I know that the Minister for Employment and Learning is working on a capital build for a new rural university on the site of the old Erne Hospital in Enniskillen.”
“Boosting our productivity by just 1% would create thousands of jobs in the long term and generate substantial tax revenue. <BR /> <BR />We need to address the scandalously uncompetitive price of energy for our manufacturing companies. We must tailor policy to boost key job-creating sectors in which the North has an international comparative advantage, such as in renewable energy and the agrifood sector. We need to reindustrialise the North and, indeed, the island as a whole. Our combined focus must be on strengthening manufacturing, promoting innovation and encouraging international trade and development. We cannot simply tell everybody to get a degree in computer programming and move to Belfast. That is not building a sustainable economy. <BR /> <BR />We must boost our infrastructure and transport networks.”
“We should not merely adopt their policies. Britain is highly imbalanced, and regional inequalities have grown alongside social inequalities. Britain now has the highest levels of inequality of anyplace in the EU. If we are to address this, we need to work together connectedly. We need to create an education and training environment that will equip our young people to fulfil their potential and maximise the opportunities for island-wide education and training. <BR /> <BR />We need to gain control of the tax system so that we can simplify it, close poverty gaps, create a progressive tax system, remove barriers to business development and maximise the opportunities from the island economy. We need to develop employment policy to bring together employers and unions to boost workforce participation and increase skills and productivity.”
“The mobile phone masts have been removed, the paint on the bollards is chipping, and the closed shops remain closed. <BR /> <BR />Invest NI is failing Fermanagh. It has been given a substantial budget, year after year, but most of us west of the Bann speak out in a unified voice to say that we are not getting our fair share of investment. There are some dissenting voices to those remarks, but they do not stand up to scrutiny when you look at the facts. Growing a sustainable and balanced regional economy must become a political and social priority. It was a Programme for Government commitment, but some of the parties involved in this commitment seem to pick and choose which commitments they support at any given time. <BR /> <BR />The policies of the British Government are working for too few and denying opportunities to too many.”
“Fermanagh also provides a good work/life balance for people, with good opportunities for social and cultural expression. These are the types of positives that should be promoted about Fermanagh, but Invest NI will not give potential investors the chance to fall in love with the place. It should be using its substantial budget to incentivise investors into neglected areas. However, during 2013-14, the year in which £92 million was wasted hosting the G8, only three potential investors were brought to Fermanagh. Despite all the lofty promises that were made in advance of the G8, none of them has materialised. We got new paint on our bollards in Enniskillen, some temporary mobile phone masts were erected to facilitate those who were coming, and many run-down shops were given false fronts to present Fermanagh as a thriving county.”
“We have excellent schools spread across the county that help to produce a skilled workforce, which could attract investors if places west of the Bann were promoted effectively.”
“We all know and are told ad nauseam, that you cannot force an investor to locate in a particular area. I might not agree with the principle, but I acknowledge that that reality exists. However, there is absolutely nothing stopping Invest NI using its substantial budget to better direct investors into areas west of the Bann that have been neglected since partition. <BR /> <BR />Everyone who comes to my county of Fermanagh falls in love with the place, and why wouldn't they? It is one of the most beautiful counties in the whole of Ireland. We have a great deal to offer visitors but also potential investors. Fermanagh has a highly educated, vibrant and hard-working population, with plenty of young people looking for employment opportunities.”
“Our IT sector and professional business services show particularly strong growth, and we must build and capitalise on this. Invest NI does great work in promoting and creating jobs, but much more is required if we are to tackle regional disparities, as that is, after all, a Programme for Government commitment. <BR /> <BR />Recent figures I have obtained for job creation show that Invest NI helped to create over 2,000 jobs in Belfast but only small numbers in areas west of the Bann during 2013-14. There is a direct link between the number of visits by foreign investors to a given area and the number of projects and jobs that are located in that area. It is therefore extremely disappointing to me that so few visits take place to places like Fermanagh on an annual basis.”
“We need to make sure that there are proper jobs and a well-built society for those people to return to. <BR /> <BR />With greater fiscal powers, our economic policy would be tailored precisely to our own needs to create jobs here and to tackle the barriers to employment by exerting control over tax, welfare and National Insurance. We would want to see improvements in productivity, employment and population. That would lead to additional tax revenues, which would help close the fiscal gap that we hear so much about. <BR /> <BR />Together we must put every effort into developing a more sustainable and balanced economy, and that means driving investment in science, innovation, skills and infrastructure, while encouraging a more enterprising and entrepreneurial culture.”
“<BR /> <BR />With the limited devolved powers that we have, our economic performance is improving, but far too many people still feel that they have to leave each year to get a job or further their career. Of course, some people will always want to travel and work elsewhere, but that must be a choice, not a requisite for those looking to succeed. I was looking through the latest spreadsheet from an Cumann Lúthchleas Gael, the GAA, on the number of people who have transferred out of their home club, and it is quite clear that emigration still presents a deeply worrying problem in rural communities. The number of young men and women who are transferring from clubs in rural parts of Ireland to England, Australia and America is a deeply worrying trend.”
“<BR /> <BR />We want to build a society that protects our environment and promotes the life chances of every child, young person and adult in the North to ensure that they have the opportunities to fulfil their potential and develop their talents. Few, if any, countries in the world have the economic potential that we have here in Ireland, North or South. We have a talented and skilled workforce, world-leading universities and a modern college sector. We have a strong international reputation for producing quality goods and services, with notable successes in sectors such as food and drink, the creative industries, life sciences and modern manufacturing.”
“Growing the economy and tackling disadvantage was the number one priority of the 2011-15 Programme for Government, and this Budget follows on very much in that guise. <BR /> <BR />The final Budget makes additional allocations of more than £150 million. It prioritises Health and Education. The final Budget sees DEL receiving a total of £33·2 million in additional funding. DETI will receive £3 million, which will go to Invest NI, as well as over £7 million in the change fund allocation. It must be remembered that all that has been agreed against the backdrop of an austerity agenda from Westminster.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. I welcome the opportunity to speak in the Budget debate and the agreement that was finally reached on the Budget. It is not an easy Budget. We certainly have a difficult task ahead in protecting public services. It is quite clear that we have received no gifts from those who are trying to drive our agenda in London. <BR /> <BR />The task of balancing our books, tackling inequality and driving economic growth has to be to the fore of our minds as we move forward. Tackling inequality starts with the economy and how we deliver public services. It starts with supporting businesses and creating sustainable employment, ensuring that people have access to a decent job and wage. The Budget prioritises education, skills and development, job creation and growing the economy.”
“I thank the Member for giving way. If he had been here yesterday for Question Time with the Employment and Learning Minister, and maybe he was, he would have heard Members from various constituencies talking about jobs fairs taking place across the North, with hundreds, even thousands, of people reported as being at them. The problem is not a lack of skills amongst people; it is a lack of opportunities. People are working for nothing, they are being forced to work a part-time job or two part-time jobs, and they are living in poverty. The problem is not a lack of willingness amongst people to work or a lack of skills; it is clearly a lack of proper job opportunities.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as a fhreagra. I thank the Minister for his answers. Will he indicate when ratepayers in Fermanagh will know their final rates bill, given that the district rate has not yet been set and the Executive have not set their regional rate, so ratepayers will have to wait for the convergence fund to be rolled out? Does he have any indicative time when people will know exactly how much they will pay?”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as ucht a freagraí go dtí seo. Is the Minister advocating a proposition similar to that of the Smith commission in Scotland, which talks about the local retention of any increased tax take as a result of a change in local policy on corporation tax?”
“Go raibh maith agat, a Príomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Given his comments on the casualisation of labour and my concerns about the casualisation of workers' rights, what legislative proposals are contained within the Executive paper that the Minister is drafting on zero-hours contracts? Specifically, how does his paper intend to further enhance and protect the rights of working people?”
“On a point of order, Mr Speaker. First, let me take this opportunity — the first I have had to do so — to congratulate you on your recent appointment. I wish you well in your new role. Secondly, I apologise to you for remarks that I made during a debate here last Tuesday evening, which you have deemed, in your infinite wisdom, to have been a challenge to the Chair. I fully accept your ruling and I certainly will not challenge it. I offer my sincere apologies for the comments that you deemed to be a challenge to the Chair.”
“I thank the Minister for giving way. He talks about there being 1,500 unemployed teachers: can he confirm that, once a qualified teacher gets a job, they are automatically removed from that register?”
“Maurice, I ask you not to speak from a sedentary position, if you do not mind.”
“This is excellent, nearly as good as Claire Byrne chairing a debate on RTÉ last night. <BR /> <BR />People who want to allow people to be marked out by the inclusion or absence of a Union flag on their driving licence are very irresponsible.”
“Surely, under Standing Orders, comments from a sedentary position are not allowed to be made. I ask you to uphold Standing Orders when I am trying to address the Chamber.”
“Deputy Speaker, there are a lot of remarks coming from sedentary positions. Is that going to be allowed to continue? Obviously it is. It is fine: we have to respect a Union flag on a licence, but Members —”
“<BR /> <BR />The conflict did not start in 1969, like Maurice Morrow wants people to think: he should know better because he lived through a lot of it. Sectarianism did not suddenly arrive in 1969: it has been going on for centuries. Those on the Benches opposite need to realise that an opt-in or opt-out system would easily mark people out. I ask them to reflect on young nationalists who may want to go out in a mixed or unionist area and recognise that such a system would leave them open to targeting. <BR /> <BR />What about a unionist who wants to go out in a largely nationalist or republican area? How would they feel, going into a pub or a nightclub with nationalist or republican doorkeepers and being asked to display their driving licence for ID when there is a Union flag on it? Would they not feel intimidated?”
“I notice that some Members opposite are wearing commemorative badges for the day, so it is a bit daft for them to come in here and bring this proposal. <BR /> <BR />The unionist parties want a system whereby one's preferred constitutional status can be easily assumed with the inclusion or exclusion of a Union flag on your driving licence. That is a very daft and irresponsible position to take. Such a proposal would easily mark people out and leave them vulnerable in some situations. I ask Members opposite to imagine a nationalist going out in a mixed or largely unionist area, trying to get into a pub or nightclub that has unionist or loyalist doorkeepers, being asked for ID and presenting a driving licence that does not include a Union flag. That would single that person out as not being a unionist and not sharing that outlook.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. I am amazed and appalled that we are having to debate this. This place faces serious social and economic problems, and we are here debating the issue of a driving licence. It is a complete waste of time and energy. I am genuinely puzzled that the DUP does not think that we have anything better to talk about. <BR /> <BR />The language they use is not really helpful. Some of the things they are coming out with are quite frightening. Members of the DUP and the UUP want a situation where people either opt in or opt out of having the Union flag on their driving licence. It is very ironic that this proposal is being put before us on International Holocaust Remembrance Day, because in those days people were forced to wear the Star of David to help identify them so that they would be rounded up.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as ucht a freagra. I thank the Minister for her answer. Perhaps she would keep us updated on any progress. Given the cross-border nature of the issue, could the Minister advise us of the current position on the investigation of the death of several hundred thousand elvers at the Electricity Supply Board (ESB) dam near Ballyshannon in the Erne system?”
“Look at the amount of money we are spending on giving medication to people who are in pain because they cannot get a routine hip or knee operation. Look at the amount of money we are spending on giving people antidepressants because they have to wait nine months to see a counsellor. This is where you make the money: you invest in your services to reduce expenditure on things like medication that is not required. <BR /> <BR />I realise that I am out of time. I eagerly await a positive response from the Minister.”
“They have borne the brunt of the pressures, and all the while senior executives are lifting over £100,000 a year and are building pension pots of over £1 million. That leaves a very sour taste in the mouths of very many low-paid workers. <BR /> <BR />We constantly hear about cuts to day care places. I do not think I have ever seen my constituency office as busy with people coming in with problems with the health and social care services. People have to wait 44 weeks for a basic occupational therapist (OT) visit; people are being relocated to Altnagelvin to give birth; there are questions over the availability of consultant neurologists for clinics, and people have to wait nearly two years for routine orthopaedic surgery. <BR /> <BR />If we look at all these issues, we can see where we can save money.”
“If the Minister and the Western Trust are looking for ways to raise revenue in the Western Trust area, the two easiest things they can do is try to get patients from across the border who are using health insurance and try to get patients from other trust areas. The location of the hospital in Enniskillen makes trying to attract people from across the border very straightforward. <BR /> <BR />The Western Trust produced a lengthy document, with a range of things that it wants to target, including meals on wheel, day care at Westbridge House in Enniskillen, the wheelchair service, domiciliary care, temporary staff, the Scanning Bureau service in Enniskillen and the filling of vacancies. Those are all key front-line services, and that is where the emphasis has been. <BR /> <BR />What about low-paid staff?”